Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Maestro]

WCU

World Congress

Voting for a Congress Host
(Day 4 - Update 7.2)

On Day 4, all players receive 3 delegates for assignment in the World Congress.
The Host receives an additional 3 delegates, for a total of 6 delegates.

World Congress resolutions may be affecting these numbers.

[22]

HEAL: HOST - brassherald

: BuJaber (3), Chara (3), Jodaxq (3), OnTheMark (3), marshy (3), Ranmaru (1),

pidgey

(

3

), Klazam (3)

[0]

HURT: HOST - brassherald

:

[9]

HEAL: HOST - Joey_

: Gamma Emerald (3), Shaziro (3),

pidgey

(

3

)

[0]

HURT: HOST - Joey_

:

---

Spoiler: Delegates Not Cast (11)

brassherald

(

6

), Joey_ (3), Ranmaru (2)

Spoiler: WC Notes

• [*]

  brassherald

  remains Host unless/until a new one is elected
  [*]

  Joey_

  was the runner up on Day 3

VCU

Votecount 4.2

[2]

Klazam

: marshy, Chara
[1]

OnTheMark

: Shaziro

---

Spoiler: Not Voting

brassherald, BuJaber, Gamma Emerald, Klazam, OnTheMark, Joey_, pidgey, Jodaxq, Ranmaru

Spoiler: VC Notes

• With
  12
  alive, it takes
  7
  votes to lynch
  
• Deadline in (expired on 2018-05-01 00:00:00)
  
• Deadline on Tuesday, 1 May @ 12:00
  MIDNIGHT
  EDT

MOD NOTES

• Joey_
  has requested replacement.

[Gamma Emerald]

brassherald cast your host votes please so we can get to the resolutions

[marshy]

Marshy can you talk to me about Bujaber right now? Reasons especially.

his claim looked townie but tbh ive largely given him a pass and been ignoring outside that. it was just such a weird play to make as scum ive been ignoring him

what about you?

I felt his play has also been the type to be 'this is too crazy to be scum' but lately I felt a lack of presence from him? Laser also scum read him, so I'm going to re-read him. I think we should meta him to see if this is in his scum range.

i kno what you mean regarding lack of presence. he just doesnt hav this "oomph" to him

i dont think i would lynch joey/chara/shaz before him in any circumstance. im leaning that youre good here too but i want to see a little more

[BuJaber]

OTM is my only vote today. They're the right vote. Depending on what scumteam they flip, I'd be looking into Chara after that.

This isn't helpful.

I am more inclined to be on your side because lynching you today seems dumb to me even if I believed you to be SK 100% (which I don't - I think you're more likely to be town).

However some people are getting swayed by both the titus replace out and mark's posting and they know them better than I do. So it seems a little risky to lynch mark.

But at the same time my conclusions lead me to either joda or mark for today's lynch. So in this case lynching mark seems optimal also in sorting you out.
As soon as the congress stuff is over my vote will go there.

All that doesn't mean you shouldn't answer my question. I don't care that you don't want to vote someone else. Town consensus might differ and I want to hear what you think. Looking into chara after a mark flip is obvious and implied from your pov so that doesn't say much.

This is especially important when you have 2 people arguing and fighting to lynch the other. We need to hear from you both. Because scum or town your opinions will matter for analyzing the game after either of you die.

Mark v Shaz needs to be sorted.
Joda / Mark both have the potential to flip either red or orange.
Klazam / Ran have been scumread several times by different people throughout the game. I think those early reads from our dead brethren should be taken into consideration.

I think the lynch should be mark but if not then at least one of those names (except shaz because like I said I think it's not the right time for his lynch even if he is SK. If he is SK he does not want orange to remain a 2 person team)


I hope joey doesn't leave but if he does let's hope we get a quick replacement.

Gamma where are you at the moment. Got a Lynch preferences or updated read list?


Pedit - regarding my play I'm naturally not inclined to take a commanding role in mafia games unless I feel it is necessary and I have the time to do so. Mainly because I don't like feeling like the game is a chore and because I don't like posting when I don't really have anything to say. Town leaders have to talk and stir up conversation constantly and that is not something that comes easily to me. Also RL situation has changed since I started the game so activity level has dropped. I don't know if this is what you mean by oomph but that's the explanation.

[brassherald]

HEAL: brassherald for host x6

[brassherald]

VOTE: klazam

[Ranmaru]

Brass you promised me some thoughts and effort. I shouldn't be asking of this from conf town.

[brassherald]

Brass you promised me some thoughts and effort. I shouldn't be asking of this from conf town.

Life's been in the way. I'm eventually going to be able to sit down and do it but every time I think I'm going to get time something has come up.

For now, Klazam and OntheMark look like the best lynches to me as I phone post.

I somehow did not project that yesterday I'd be so damn tired after a 60 hour work week. Today, I'm out of the house until the evening. I hope to get to it then

[Ranmaru]

That's fine. I just must stress, since you are conf town, you have the position to set the pace and trends of town. That's why I feel it's important your posts come along with a pro-town example. Did you read the link I gave you about my IC game I played? Let me know when you have a time to sit down and effort, and I'll try to be around for that.

[brassherald]

I did read the game, but it was a while back and I forgot it already I'll have to read again. I'll probably be around like 9pm EST tonight

[OnTheMark]

We HAVE been stumbling since day one.

One less KPN a night is the most protown thing I can think of. We have the lead let’s not squander it.

How about you try hunting last red as well then

When I have caught SK in front of me why divert?

I am guessing it’s Bujaber but that is a guess. I want sure scum deader than dead.

Whoever asked who I would do besides Shaziro it was mentioned before BuJaber.

Sorry the stuff I was handling on V/LA is taking longer than I thought gonna be afk most of today too.

[Shaziro]

Voting scum is inherently helpful, BuJaber.

[Maestro]

WCU

World Congress

Voting for a Congress Host
(Day 4 - Update 7.3)

On Day 4, all players receive 3 delegates for assignment in the World Congress.
The Host receives an additional 3 delegates, for a total of 6 delegates.

World Congress resolutions may be affecting these numbers.

[28]

HEAL: HOST - brassherald

:

BuJaber (3), Chara (3), Jodaxq (3), OnTheMark (3), marshy (3), Ranmaru (1),

pidgey

(

3

), Klazam (3),

brassherald

(

6

)

[9]

HEAL: HOST - Thor665

:

Gamma Emerald (3), Shaziro (3),

pidgey

(

3

)

---

Spoiler: Delegates Not Cast (5)

Thor665 (3), Ranmaru (2)

Spoiler: WC Notes

• [*]

  brassherald

  remains Host
  [*]

  Thor665

  was the runner up

VCU

Votecount 4.3

[3]

Klazam

:

marshy, Chara, brassherald

[1]

OnTheMark

:

Shaziro

---

Spoiler: Not Voting

BuJaber, Gamma Emerald, Klazam, OnTheMark, Thor665, pidgey, Jodaxq, Ranmaru

Spoiler: VC Notes

• With
  12
  alive, it takes
  7
  votes to lynch
  
• Deadline in (expired on 2018-05-01 00:00:00)
  
• Deadline on Tuesday, 1 May @ 12:00
  MIDNIGHT
  EDT

MOD NOTES

• brassherald
  remains Host
  
• Thor665
  was the runner up, because...
  
• Thor665
  replaces
  Joey_
  , effective immediately!
  Host and runner-up, look to your PMs for today's list of resolutions Soon
  TM

[Ranmaru]

Welcome Thor!

[Gamma Emerald]

hey Thor!

[Maestro]

SPECIAL MOD NOTE

I was asked about this via PM, but in the interest of transparency and because there may be others to whom this wasn't obvious, World Congress Host elections and Open Debates only continue as long as the remaining delegates cannot influence the outcome any further, e.g. in the recently-concluded Host election, there were still 5 delegates uncast, but no assortment of those 5 delegates could change the outcome of the Host election, therefore it ended. The same is true of Open Debates in the past, when I have held off posting a final update because remaining delegates could

potentially

change the outcome.

[pidgey]

Im gonna get back tomorrow to the game, sorry, had a suepro busy weekend

[BuJaber]

Voting scum is inherently helpful, BuJaber.

Of course but you understand that the point of asking is to gain info about you and possibly other people when they react to it. I already know you want to vote for mark. I already understood that you only want to vote for mark. But that doesn't answer my question. Also if you don't get 6 other people to vote mark with you your vote is wasted so too much rigidity is not good.

Especially when the person asking you is someone who townread gamma before you outed your kills and is suspicious of mark so has at least two reads that align with yours.

[Gamma Emerald]

Um what? How does a gamma scumread align with Shaz's reads?

[Jodaxq]

It sucks to see this game stall out. And yes I know I'm a huge part of that

[Jodaxq]

As I said I'm coming around to OTM being town. A Klazam lynch doesn't excite me either. It feels similar to the Kiana lynch to me and I still find his stubbornness in claiming kinda townie.

[Jodaxq]

I'm becoming pretty paranoid about the Joey slot. I can't point to anything specific and it's not the replace out, but he was just so town and the commuter claim is a pretty convenient one to explain why he was never killed. With the most widely scum read slots coming forward and looking pretty townie, I just feel like this is a lot more possible.

[BuJaber]

Um what? How does a gamma scumread align with Shaz's reads?

My post says townread gamma not scumread gamma.

?????

[brassherald]

Looking through, I think Klazam, OtM, Shaziro, ranmaru and Marshy contains all the remaining scum. I could be wrong though.

Joey was talking about the commute since night 1 in the Neighborhood we have, so I don't believe he is lying about that.

[Thor665]

Hello.

Catching up, though I am at work, and also already have all this 'World Congress' jive to dig through, and apparently a Neighborhood I haven't been linked to yet?
So, yeah, don't expect a lot of deep thoughts for a bit.

That said, can we speed wagon someone? People should tell me who the obvious rope eaters are for the day so I can conveniently have my reads target them.
Thanks in advance!