Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[the worst]

Twinny I'm starting to think you might be scum

[Draynth]

Twinny I'm starting to think you might be scum

And why is that?

[the worst]

Lurkin thru a bit, kinda lack of conviction in your posts, I'm not really feeling your strong reads....also you were scumreading me one appearance, but suddenly feel very agreeable...

[the worst]

I also don't know your meta but given we are literally twins I kinda expected you to follow my wonky trajectory on Math a little.

This is weak w/o meta though, just why this sinking feeling is deepening.... :c

[Draynth]

Lurkin thru a bit, kinda lack of conviction in your posts, I'm not really feeling your strong reads....also you were scumreading me one appearance, but suddenly feel very agreeable...

If it makes you feel better lack of conviction has always been an issue for me, reading my most recent completed game is an example

Spoiler: Newbie1858

I really need to be more confident in my hunches, this is like the 3rd game I've been super paranoid about one player just lurking while two people deathtunnel each other and they end up flipping scum
It was kinda hard to focus him at all in retrospect though

Above is an example of my end of game reaction
Game link is here

Obviously this is only one example, If you believe in using meta (I'm not a big fan personally) feel free to go through some other past games too.

I also scumread you mostly based on not knowing whether or not your "niceness", for want of a better word, was playstyle related or not.

I also don't know your meta but given we are literally twins I kinda expected you to follow my wonky trajectory on Math a little.

This is weak w/o meta though, just why this sinking feeling is deepening.... :c

I haven't read into the Math stuff yet as I haven't reviewed the game that pin linked me

[the worst]

If it makes you feel better lack of conviction has always been an issue for me, reading my most recent completed game is an example

ohfuck literally me af

[brassherald]

Votecount 1.10

Oxy(4)

~ ruru(83), pinturicchio(63), skitter30(53), the worst(218)

Draynth(2)

~ ofrhz(108), Mathdino(137)

UglyDuck(1)

~ AP(65)

the worst(1)

~ Oxy(140)

ofrhz(1)

~ UglyDuck(27)

Players dead:

Not Voting (4): Draynth(35), Sunshine13(27), Mohab500(53), Scioness Sajj(47)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-30 16:45:00)

Looking for a replacement for Mohab500.
Tonight's VoteCount will be late.

[Oxy]

yo, the worst, let's 1v1. I think you're scum, and you know I'm town. We're a perfect match.

[Oxy]

lay out the case why I'm a scum butt

[the worst]

Hilarious.

Actually find scum, I'm not wasting my time repeating myself or on this "1v1" junk. Reread my posts if you don't know my case. o.0

[the worst]

Another angle....basically dude you're claiming town
Town win by finding scum not by asking the 4th player on their wagon to re case them

If you think I'm scum CASE ME don't state useless statistics then draw unnatural conclusions with no trajectory.

If you don't think I'm scum find scum.

I don't think you actually think I'm scum. I'm just trying to work out whether you're town taking Math's paranoia read too far, or scum.

[Mohab500]

I know I am replacing out but I thinm tw is scum or at the very least, tw vs oxy is not tvt

[Oxy]

Whether or not it was AI for you to consciously/sub-consciously avoid talking to your scum partner directly will come out in post game.

I don't think you can help talking to people as town, so yeah, I think it was AI.

I also think you're playing scummy af. You've been trying to derail a perfectly pro-town plan for the vig shot

You've been throwing shade at people like dino without reasoning

You reacted to my case on you by saying "I'm going to have to process this"

but I think town you gets a little bit angrier when someone makes a case against you that you consider bad. Don't you think, Dino? Don't answer that.

[Oxy]

but your case on me?

Your case on me is that the massive amount of effort I put into this game resulted in a "useless" statistic

And that I'm pocketing mathdino

And that I'm a scumbutt.

So which case is really more nonsensical?

[Oxy]

Town win by finding scum not by asking the 4th player on their wagon to re case them

Are you number 4? What a comfy position for scum to be in, amirite?

This post definitely doesn't sound like you're anxious to take ownership of my lynch.

[Oxy]

Doing good thanks.

skitter do you have any scum meta? thinking back to Math's Stack the Deck you're too easy a townread for me.

I had a minor scumstreak early in my MS career. it is a pain.
I'll go do some reading, shame there's no recent meta.

I can't meta read for shit, I'm just curious

in fairness all this shit is so long ago scum!skitter is probably different by now anyway.

anyway.........town!skitter is awesome so I will just try to resist reading her for now in the hope she skitters

well

as I said I like skitter so far, she skittered well considering her last post was on page 3.
I also think she has good instincts so far--hit me up if you aren't picking up what I'm putting down here.

This is an interesting progression from "I'll just give up on reading her" to "I thought she looked town all along"

[Oxy]

this player list is fantastic and keeps getting better. I also like the mod. it's like a clean sweep.

@whoever rolled scum fuck you for being scum and forcing us to kill you :'(

I'm not going to claim this is scummy

But if you do flip red, this is definitely cringe worthy, mate.

[the worst]

Whether or not it was AI for you to consciously/sub-consciously avoid talking to your scum partner directly will come out in post game.

Explain what you're talking about here AND why you think it's appropriate to make bad pre flip associations with no knowledge of how my meta works.

I don't think you can help talking to people as town, so yeah, I think it was AI.

I also think you're playing scummy af. You've been trying to derail a perfectly pro-town plan for the vig shot

Why does scum!me go against the flow so aggressively? and I compulsively talk to people as either alignment. This fits two categories

1) people I townread hard.
2) people I think I can sort via forcing them to generate content.

You've been throwing shade at people like dino without reasoning

You reacted to my case on you by saying "I'm going to have to process this"

If you think I have no reasoning for my dinocase you need to reread my ISO dude, and yes duh--he finally explained where he's coming from and I can actually see how town!dino is wrong here. Of course I'm going to reconsider my read??

but I think town you gets a little bit angrier when someone makes a case against you that you consider bad. Don't you think, Dino? Don't answer that.

Whats this in reference to?

[Oxy]

He’s a strong town player. and if what he says is true, he’ll bus his own scum partners, thereby doing some of the work for us.

So no, I don’t want to lynch him d1. Plus I think everything he said in 280 is true.

HMM NICE WORK DIZZY DUCKLING

Could you please explain what this post means and your motivation for making it?

To me, this interaction feels forced. I know you like to make fluff posts, but I don't really understand the joke, or why this post by ofrhz prompted you to make it?

[the worst]

but your case on me?

Your case on me is that the massive amount of effort I put into this game resulted in a "useless" statistic

And that I'm pocketing mathdino

And that I'm a scumbutt.

So which case is really more nonsensical?

This is
Literally
What scum do

I don't understand help

[the worst]

Doing good thanks.

skitter do you have any scum meta? thinking back to Math's Stack the Deck you're too easy a townread for me.

I had a minor scumstreak early in my MS career. it is a pain.
I'll go do some reading, shame there's no recent meta.

I can't meta read for shit, I'm just curious

in fairness all this shit is so long ago scum!skitter is probably different by now anyway.

anyway.........town!skitter is awesome so I will just try to resist reading her for now in the hope she skitters

well

as I said I like skitter so far, she skittered well considering her last post was on page 3.
I also think she has good instincts so far--hit me up if you aren't picking up what I'm putting down here.

This is an interesting progression from "I'll just give up on reading her" to "I thought she looked town all along"

Explain whether this progression ever comes from scum!me and why?

Context, this was wrt math asking me for a townread outside the obvtowns

[Oxy]

I think you need to reread my post because you don't seem to understand it, and I was being quite clear.

[the worst]

Town win by finding scum not by asking the 4th player on their wagon to re case them

Are you number 4? What a comfy position for scum to be in, amirite?

This post definitely doesn't sound like you're anxious to take ownership of my lynch.

Always happy to take ownership of a lynch bruh, I'm on the wagon here.

[the worst]

He’s a strong town player. and if what he says is true, he’ll bus his own scum partners, thereby doing some of the work for us.

So no, I don’t want to lynch him d1. Plus I think everything he said in 280 is true.

HMM NICE WORK DIZZY DUCKLING

Could you please explain what this post means and your motivation for making it?

To me, this interaction feels forced. I know you like to make fluff posts, but I don't really understand the joke, or why this post by ofrhz prompted you to make it?

Anti town af to dictate later game expectation of a player's scum play when you're entertaining that they could be scum.

How is this forced...?

[Oxy]

Explain whether this progression ever comes from scum!me and why?

Context, this was wrt math asking me for a townread outside the obvtowns

Of course it is in your scum range. It's lazy af. "Oh well, sorting people is hard so I give up on skitter" -> "I need another town read for dino, so wtf I'll just call this interaction I found null before town this time and no one will care"