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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:00 am

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In post 1096, Oxy wrote:I think you need to reread my post because you don't seem to understand it, and I was being quite clear.
I'm asking for more.
How you've actually reached these conclusions and why you think they come from scum.

You're pushing a lynchcase not a scumcase fmpov and it's gross


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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:01 am

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In post 1098, the worst wrote:
In post 1093, Oxy wrote:
In post 285, the worst wrote:
In post 284, ofrhz wrote:He’s a strong town player. and if what he says is true, he’ll bus his own scum partners, thereby doing some of the work for us.

So no, I don’t want to lynch him d1. Plus I think everything he said in 280 is true.
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Could you please explain what this post means and your motivation for making it?

To me, this interaction feels forced. I know you like to make fluff posts, but I don't really understand the joke, or why this post by ofrhz prompted you to make it?
Anti town af to dictate later game expectation of a player's scum play when you're entertaining that they could be scum.

How is this forced...? :lol:
So, at the time you considered this post as likely coming from scum!Ofrhz?
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:02 am

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In post 1100, the worst wrote:
In post 1096, Oxy wrote:I think you need to reread my post because you don't seem to understand it, and I was being quite clear.
I'm asking for more.
How you've actually reached these conclusions and why you think they come from scum.

You're pushing a lynchcase not a scumcase fmpov and it's gross


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You thought I was talking about dino when I was talking about you amongst other misunderstandings. re read it.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:02 am

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In post 1101, Oxy wrote:
In post 1098, the worst wrote:
In post 1093, Oxy wrote:
In post 285, the worst wrote:
In post 284, ofrhz wrote:He’s a strong town player. and if what he says is true, he’ll bus his own scum partners, thereby doing some of the work for us.

So no, I don’t want to lynch him d1. Plus I think everything he said in 280 is true.
HMM NICE WORK DIZZY DUCKLING
Could you please explain what this post means and your motivation for making it?

To me, this interaction feels forced. I know you like to make fluff posts, but I don't really understand the joke, or why this post by ofrhz prompted you to make it?
Anti town af to dictate later game expectation of a player's scum play when you're entertaining that they could be scum.

How is this forced...? :lol:
So, at the time you considered this post as likely coming from scum!Ofrhz?
The idea crossed my mind
Much more antitown than scum indicative tho imo
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:03 am

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In post 1102, Oxy wrote:
In post 1100, the worst wrote:
In post 1096, Oxy wrote:I think you need to reread my post because you don't seem to understand it, and I was being quite clear.
I'm asking for more.
How you've actually reached these conclusions and why you think they come from scum.

You're pushing a lynchcase not a scumcase fmpov and it's gross


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You thought I was talking about dino when I was talking about you amongst other misunderstandings. re read it.
I literally have no idea what you mean here dude. I'm sorry. If you're thinking more than you're posting please remember I can't read your mind.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:04 am

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In post 1103, the worst wrote:So, at the time you considered this post as likely coming from scum!Ofrhz?

The idea crossed my mind
Much more antitown than scum indicative tho imo
You're a helpful guy. Why didn't you explain to him why it was anti-town?

Or follow up with him at all?
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:05 am

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In post 1105, Oxy wrote:
In post 1103, the worst wrote:So, at the time you considered this post as likely coming from scum!Ofrhz?

The idea crossed my mind
Much more antitown than scum indicative tho imo
You're a helpful guy. Why didn't you explain to him why it was anti-town?

Or follow up with him at all?
No idea honestly. I'll go back and see if I can get back into my brain on that day. :lol:
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:07 am

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In post 1104, the worst wrote:I literally have no idea what you mean here dude. I'm sorry. If you're thinking more than you're posting please remember I can't read your mind.
wow, condescending, okay. Fine, I'll go reiterate.
In post 1087, Oxy wrote:Whether or not it was AI for you to consciously/sub-consciously avoid talking to your scum partner directly will come out in post game.
I don't think you can help talking to people as town, so yeah, I think it was AI. This is not a primary factor in my scum read on you. Like I said we'll see in postgame

I also think you're playing scummy af. You've been trying to derail a perfectly pro-town plan for the vig shot. You asked me why you would go out on a limb - It's not a limb. I'm the only one calling you out for it.

You've been throwing shade at people like dino without reasoning. You say you had reasoning. Where? Where is there anything but smoke and mirrors from you about his slot?

You reacted to my case on you by saying "I'm going to have to process this" (this is about you, not dino)

but I think town you gets a little bit angrier when someone makes a case against you that you consider bad. Don't you think, Dino? Don't answer that.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:10 am

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Honestly I'm gonna put it down to me paying more attention to other things and evaluating whether ofrhz's posting was antitown vs. scum indicative.

I got nothin more for you here, I like helping people and all but I'm here to win first and foremost.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:12 am

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I'm out of time for the moment, myself. to be continued.

Looking at the wagon, there's definitely one scum!duck on it right now. He's probably the lone one right now, but in a world where there is a second, it's probably pintu.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:13 am

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In post 1109, Oxy wrote:I'm out of time for the moment, myself. to be continued.

Looking at the wagon, there's definitely one scum!duck on it right now. He's probably the lone one right now, but in a world where there is a second, it's probably pintu.
This is exactly why I'm scumreading you, for the record
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:13 am

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I'm sorry. I don't mean to sound condescending at all here, I think our tune is dissonant. I actually think I've responded fairly well to your case.

If there's stuff in particular you want more on while we're both here could you shoot me some [post] tags? I'm a bit tired.
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:14 am

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In post 1086, Mohab500 wrote:I know I am replacing out but I thinm tw is scum or at the very least, tw vs oxy is not tvt
For the record this is the worst post ig so far
My respect for nsg is too great.....
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:14 am

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Pintu - Idgi. why?

I wrote more in my quote for you, duck. like an ebwop. check it out.
In post 1107, Oxy wrote:
In post 1104, the worst wrote:I literally have no idea what you mean here dude. I'm sorry. If you're thinking more than you're posting please remember I can't read your mind.
wow, condescending, okay. Fine, I'll go reiterate.
In post 1087, Oxy wrote:Whether or not it was AI for you to consciously/sub-consciously avoid talking to your scum partner directly will come out in post game.
I don't think you can help talking to people as town, so yeah, I think it was AI. This is not a primary factor in my scum read on you. Like I said we'll see in postgame

I also think you're playing scummy af. You've been trying to derail a perfectly pro-town plan for the vig shot. You asked me why you would go out on a limb - It's not a limb. I'm the only one calling you out for it.

You've been throwing shade at people like dino without reasoning. You say you had reasoning. Where? Where is there anything but smoke and mirrors from you about his slot?

You reacted to my case on you by saying "I'm going to have to process this" (this is about you, not dino)

but I think town you gets a little bit angrier when someone makes a case against you that you consider bad. Don't you think, Dino? Don't answer that.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:15 am

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Damnit Oxy I thought we were getting into something here.....</3

pedit: yes I read it, I think I did ok my first time around. Would you mind reviewing my responses & commenting on them?

In the interim if its ok if you feel like I missed something really badly [post] links would be a huge help
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:16 am

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In post 1112, the worst wrote:
In post 1086, Mohab500 wrote:I know I am replacing out but I thinm tw is scum or at the very least, tw vs oxy is not tvt
For the record this is the worst post ig so far
My respect for nsg is too great.....
do you disagree? you think you vs me is tvt?
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:18 am

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In post 1115, Oxy wrote:
In post 1112, the worst wrote:
In post 1086, Mohab500 wrote:I know I am replacing out but I thinm tw is scum or at the very least, tw vs oxy is not tvt
For the record this is the worst post ig so far
My respect for nsg is too great.....
do you disagree? you think you vs me is tvt?
We're just getting started my friend, how do you feel about the timing of this post?
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:22 am

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In post 1113, Oxy wrote:Pintu - Idgi. why?
You're mimicking your towngame in Newbie 1859. You're doing the exact same things that you did on that game - tunneling, giving hard townreads - 'cause you thought "hey, same players, I'll do the same I did there". Problem is, you said at the end of the game that you felt you played poorly, so why would you play the same way you played there if you think you played poorly there? And the first time I realized this was when you put your readlist with me as a townlean and not as a townread. "Why the fuck is he not townreading me?", I thought. "He's sheeping Dino so hard that he's voting one of his townleans, but he's not sheeping him in his townreads, why?", I thought.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:23 am

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northsidegal replaces Mohab500.
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:25 am

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Welcome nsg!!!!

If you got a scum role pm please give me a sign
Say "elephants" in your first post or something >:
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:25 am

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town lean is a town read you fool

And I just said the worst is probably the only scum voting me

but skitter tunnel feels precisely like last game, and I think she's town. And I'm pretty sure math is town

so in a world of 2 on my wagon, you were the only one left??

Also, WTF. I'm being voted on by 2 people for being too different from last game, and one person for being too similar? am I a fucking rorshach test?

@the worst - I think the timing was bad mannered, but mohab just got bullied out of this game because people like NSG more, so I wouldn't have blamed them if they posted their role pm as a big fuck you. basically, it's NAI.

More after this conference call
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:26 am

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Hello, NSG!

See you around, Mohab!
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:29 am

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I really did not get the feeling Mohab wanted to be here
The fact nsg is great is beside the point :P


Good luck with the conference call. Sadly I'll pass out soon but I look forward to more.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:34 am

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welcome NSG

I find a lot of Oxy's posts in the 1v1 with TW super forced / bending things said to push a narrative

Spoiler: Oxy posts
In post 1088, Oxy wrote:but your case on me?

Your case on me is that the massive amount of effort I put into this game resulted in a "useless" statistic

And that I'm pocketing mathdino

And that I'm a scumbutt.

So which case is really more nonsensical?
I don't understand this post at all, Oxy never came back to it when TW expressed similar confusion
In post 1102, Oxy wrote:
In post 1100, the worst wrote:
In post 1096, Oxy wrote:I think you need to reread my post because you don't seem to understand it, and I was being quite clear.
I'm asking for more.
How you've actually reached these conclusions and why you think they come from scum.

You're pushing a lynchcase not a scumcase fmpov and it's gross


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You thought I was talking about dino when I was talking about you amongst other misunderstandings. re read it.
I might just be missing something but I also don't know what he means here, when I read the interaction what TW was saying made sense
In post 1109, Oxy wrote:I'm out of time for the moment, myself. to be continued.

Looking at the wagon, there's definitely one scum!duck on it right now. He's probably the lone one right now, but in a world where there is a second, it's probably pintu.
This feels weird.
Like he made a big deal out of starting a 1v1, then just nopes out halfway through with a blanket statement?
He mentioned he was on a conference call though so I'm sure there's more to come.
In post 1120, Oxy wrote: @the worst - I think the timing was bad mannered, but
mohab just got bullied out of this game because people like NSG more
, so I wouldn't have blamed them if they posted their role pm as a big fuck you. basically, it's NAI.
I have no idea who NSG is and I still think Mohab wasn't able to give time to the game
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:06 am

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In post 1027, ruru wrote:
I still find his later explanations or lack thereof scummy
which posts are you referring to?
In post 1026, ruru wrote:Hmm, I just skimmed Oxy in 1859 to re-evaluate the LAMIST thing

I'm not really seeing it

Some notes:
0. Wow I got used to this Oxy and that Oxy is more different than I remembered
1. eth0s called him a likely NK relatively early D1, but his posting style didn't change to try to seem more scummy
2. Md lead the game later D1 and obvtowned him, but his posting style didn't change to try to seem more scummy
3. He softed PR in such an obvious way that during the game, as scum, I had a hard time believing he wasn't bluffing specifically to draw the NK as VT. This is pretty much the opposite of trying to get more people to scumread him to avoid the NK
1&2 - changing the playstyle after being called out would more likely get him killed, though. Dino also granted Oxy a wifom protection coat, which I hated at that time but yeah it was a good play and actually made Oxy less likely to be nk'd.
3 - tbf you need to take into account when it happened. He was being wagoned and scumread at the time of the claim and I believe he was quite upset.
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