Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Sunshine13]

UD is n00b town, please no lynch.

Well, I will accept possibly really bad scum, but with two friends likely guiding 'em, unlikely.

I'm saying that while being 20 pages back and

still

pissed off with them, though.

You guys post a lot.

[brassherald]

pagetop

pedit NO

I am laughing at you for this.

[Sunshine13]

Also reading mohab/nsg as town for completely nai reasons, leaving me 10 people to sort. yay.

[skitter30]

Yeah tbh oxy didn't really seem to be playing up the LAMIST-y thing on purpose to be seen as scummy, especially since he stopped ~day2 after math pointed it out and after I kept on harping on it.

what was the point after having been role blocked and cleared by math
ruru, you didn't see a change because it was a strategy(lol) i took going into the game, as i said before.

I guess I think I would believe the LAMIST-y thing if you had mentioned it was a strategy in post of that game instead of in-game, here, when people are comparing this game to that one.

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it is a bit weird that people get more and more comfortable with voting oxy the further he drops down my town list/the longer he spends not in my townbloc

I'm not sure if people are getting more comfortabe voting oxy as he drops down in your town-list, or if he's dropping down in your town list as more people vote for him.

Note to self: look into this later when I have time.

Whether or not it was AI for you to consciously/sub-consciously avoid talking to your scum partner directly will come out in post game.

Another thing to research later.

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I agree with draynth that oxy's side of that argument feels rather forced, and like over-confidant/false-bravado-y (especially 1082, 1088)

I wonder why draynth didn't vote there after saying that

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but skitter tunnel feels precisely like last gam

e, and I think she's town. And I'm pretty sure math is town

This is a really weird thing for you to say cuz I'm not tunneling you here and the way I'm interacting with you here is vastly different from how I interacted with you in that game.

I kinda feel like you're calling me town and saying I'm tunneling you so that you can brush off the scumread tbh

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@scioness: I think your entry was bad. You have like one post that I like. neither of these are enough for me to sort you confidentally either way right now. I think part of the problem is that I haven't super been here, and you haven't super been here. If you're town, I think I'll be able to see that like I did last time when you start posting more content and contributing more. IE I think you'll become more readable to me if you post more content, and you haven't really done anything scummy enough for me to jump on that today before you catch up.

You're, as a whole, like somewhere between null and nullscum but I think I can get a better read with more content so I'm just kinda waiting for that to happen.

Basically what I'm saying is that I like the one post and it's town-indicative, and I also dislike your entrance and I'm waiting for more from you to firm up this read. Liking one post doesn't mean I townread you.

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Oxy vs TW feels TvT. Can’t tell if I’m confbiasing but I don’t want to lynch either of those two

I’m a fan of left shift NSG

Sheeping skitter on her AP theory - can we lynch in {UD, Draynth, possibly Scioness}

Doesn't feel tvt to me and I'm low-key getting the vibe that you might be buddying me at this point.

[the worst]

I actually kinda dont wanna lynch draynth today

Just ftr

[Oxy]

In post 1120, Oxy wrote:
but skitter tunnel feels precisely like last game, and I think she's town. And I'm pretty sure math is town


This is a really weird thing for you to say cuz I'm not tunneling you here and the way I'm interacting with you here is vastly different from how I interacted with you in that game.

I kinda feel like you're calling me town and saying I'm tunneling you so that you can brush off the scumread tbh

tbh it's both you're bad read on me and your bad read on dino, and how you have pushed past multiple explanations for things you are concerned about.

[Oxy]

Doesn't feel tvt to me and I'm low-key getting the vibe that you might be buddying me at this point.

buddying you, buddying ruru, and buddying me

but didn't buddy anyone last game

[northsidegal]

do sunshine and uglyduck know each other?

[the worst]

Interesting question--it's sunshine's first game on that account and Ugly is a newbie so they probably need to confirm.

What's on your mind?

[northsidegal]

UD is n00b town, please no lynch.

Well, I will accept possibly really bad scum, but with two friends likely guiding 'em, unlikely.

I'm saying that while being 20 pages back and

still

pissed off with them, though.

You guys post a lot.

i just got that feeling from this post, although reading it a bit more closely there's not really any implication that would suggest that there.

[AP]

it's sunshine's first game on that account

It's the first time I get to play too, baby. Everything before was just physical so doesn't count.

[Sunshine13]

I don't know UD, however that post in which I got super angry with them? The lead up to that made me think they're new to mafia, and I don't think new scum would do that. Or be allowed to do that, unless they weren't checking their chat.

[Sunshine13]

I'm re-reading the entire game, will post reads and such when I'm done. Perhaps I'm going overboard though, since I seem to have 2 scum reads (AP and Oxy) and 2 null scum (Sajj and ofhrz)

I guess I just need to consider the two null scum a bit more... only up to page 15 so far, though, so maybe I find something to change my mind on everything.

I do need to know what y'all mean by "pocket" though. Presumably it's like buddying but more specific to scum?

Very happy you've stopped posting though, keep that shit up; maybe I'll get to actually do something other than read mafia forums after work tomorrow.

[the worst]

Yeah like scum actively decising to buddy someone so they'll side with them later

[brassherald]

Votecount 1.11

Oxy(4)

~ ruru(98), pinturicchio(65), skitter30(54), the worst(242)

Draynth(3)

~ ofrhz(112), Mathdino(146), northsidegal(70)

UglyDuck(1)

~ AP(66)

the worst(1)

~ Oxy(161)

ofrhz(1)

~ UglyDuck(27)

Players dead:

Not Voting (3): Draynth(37), Sunshine13(31), Scioness Sajj(52)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-30 16:45:00)

[AP]

OMG! This looks like a hideous VC. Just by the looks of it, I'm supporting neither of the 2 leasing wagons.

[the worst]

Draynth wagon is such a compromise wagon.

Oxy wagon is 100% town imo. What's bugging you bout it mr powers?

[northsidegal]

okay, reading through the thread from the start now.

[northsidegal]

I would feel bad about pushing scioness with maximum Mathdino weight on d1 off of 1 post
I would otherwise sheep you, as I agree the post is more scum indicative than null
Waiting til everyone checks in

/lurk

I'm not seeing how the post is more scum indicative than not. In fact, I would be inclined to suggest it's more town indicative than anything else.

[not quite related to things]

Also, are there any procedural things I should know about regarding voting around the hammer point? L-1, L-2, that kinda dealio?

[/not quite related to things]

are you me

[northsidegal]

preliminary:

{nsg}
{ruru}
{sunshine13, skitter13}
{AP, Mathdino, the worst, UglyDuck, Oxy, pinturicchio, ofrhz}
{}
{scioness, draynth}

[northsidegal]

i feel like math describing his plan if he rolled scum in 90 only comes from scum him if he rolled scum with people who disagreed with the plan and so discarded it. of course, there's always the chance that he simply came up with another plan to actually use as scum and just said the other one, but that seems slightly unlikely. enough for me to at least move him up from null.

{nsg}
{ruru}
{sunshine13, skitter13}
{Mathdino}
{AP, the worst, UglyDuck, Oxy, pinturicchio, ofrhz}
{}
{scioness, draynth}

[AP]

Draynth wagon is such a compromise wagon.

Oxy wagon is 100% town imo. What's bugging you bout it mr powers?

People I won't be shooting (if I was the vig, that is ) pinturicchio /

Draynth

/

Oxy

/ Mathdino

Otherwise it really depends on the lynchee and their flip.

This was meant to convey that I'm town reading these 4, and you're asking me why it bothers me that you're wagoning 2 of them?? It is

clear

to me that these competing wagons are in act on 2 townies.

[northsidegal]

i remember that i

had

some next level tell for reading pintu, but i don't actually remember what it was...

[northsidegal]

{nsg}
{ruru}
{sunshine13, skitter13}
{Mathdino, AP}
{the worst, UglyDuck, Oxy, pinturicchio, ofrhz}
{}
{scioness, draynth}

[northsidegal]

perhaps?

{nsg}
{ruru}
{sunshine13, skitter13}
{Mathdino, AP, Oxy}
{UglyDuck, , pinturicchio, ofrhz}
{the worst}
{scioness, draynth}