Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[brassherald]

Screw it, I'm not waiting. Joey told me in the Neighborhood last night that he had commuted Night 2. Therefore, he had not commute on Night 3.

OTM's theory is full of shit.

[Jodaxq]

Scum killing A50 may be somewhat bad, but it's not THAT bad. It's not so bad that it's just not an option. People can make odd/bad decisions for all types of reasons.

[Jodaxq]

Screw it, I'm not waiting. Joey told me in the Neighborhood last night that he had commuted Night 2. Therefore, he had not commute on Night 3.

OTM's theory is full of shit.

I feel like this should have come out sooner.

[Ranmaru]

Joda, where is your head at in terms of scumreads right now?

[OnTheMark]

Mark: It is indeed a silly kill. Yet, if you believe that is the case, why do you believe an SK would kill in a silly way, after claiming not to have any more shots, as a pro-claimed town vig? If Klazam showed the ability and desire to talk himself out of his situation, I'd consider what you are saying, but his lack of posting doesn't seem to lean towards that deduction. Also keep in mind that most of the kills have been players on the Creature wagon on Day 1.

Because Shaziro could lie about it much better than most. He could say “oh trying to live another day so scum didn’t see me as a threat” He’s already lied and had people about it.

As for me I am “lack of posting” as I am a hyperposter. Posting or lack thereof is NAI. I have posted for 24 hours straight before as scum and made far less and won as town.

It’s a matter of the quality of the post when someone does post.

[OnTheMark]

Screw it, I'm not waiting. Joey told me in the Neighborhood last night that he had commuted Night 2. Therefore, he had not commute on Night 3.

OTM's theory is full of shit.

So then both scum hit Gamma. Point still stands.

[OnTheMark]

Even if you don’t believe my theory on the SK, you still have to explain the missing kill which the only way I see is Gamma. And if one scum shot Gamma why not both?

[Ranmaru]

Simple, Orange scum never had kills in the first place.

[OnTheMark]

Simple, Orange scum never had kills in the first place.

If Orange never had any kills then how did three people die N1?

[brassherald]

Okay, I can explain the lack of a kill. One scum team attacks Gamma, as you said, the other attacks A50.

Done. This is pretty simple.

[Gamma Emerald]

Screw it, I'm not waiting. Joey told me in the Neighborhood last night that he had commuted Night 2. Therefore, he had not commute on Night 3.

OTM's theory is full of shit.

Say what?! So Joey is nonconsecutive commuter? What does this mean for OTM's role's viability? I feel like it lend's credibility to OTM's claim.

[brassherald]

Screw it, I'm not waiting. Joey told me in the Neighborhood last night that he had commuted Night 2. Therefore, he had not commute on Night 3.

OTM's theory is full of shit.

Say what?! So Joey is nonconsecutive commuter? What does this mean for OTM's role's viability? I feel like it lend's credibility to OTM's claim.

Didn't he say that ages ago?

[Ranmaru]

Weren't we in the agreement that Elbirn died due to his role, and not being shot?

[OnTheMark]

Furthermore you’re suggesting that Orange has no NK and has to survive against a whole other scum team and Varsoon would claim scum as scum when his team would have No NK?

Pedit no on the agreement.

[OnTheMark]

Screw it, I'm not waiting. Joey told me in the Neighborhood last night that he had commuted Night 2. Therefore, he had not commute on Night 3.

OTM's theory is full of shit.

Say what?! So Joey is nonconsecutive commuter? What does this mean for OTM's role's viability? I feel like it lend's credibility to OTM's claim.

Didn't he say that ages ago?

No he never said it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Simple, Orange scum never had kills in the first place.

If Orange never had any kills then how did three people die N1?

I agree with this question. If you think Orange scum don't have kills then wouldn't that necessitate me being scum, based on the Elbirn situation?

[Gamma Emerald]

Weren't we in the agreement that Elbirn died due to his role, and not being shot?

No? Why have you been trusting me at all if you've been thinking this?

[brassherald]

Screw it, I'm not waiting. Joey told me in the Neighborhood last night that he had commuted Night 2. Therefore, he had not commute on Night 3.

OTM's theory is full of shit.

Say what?! So Joey is nonconsecutive commuter? What does this mean for OTM's role's viability? I feel like it lend's credibility to OTM's claim.

Didn't he say that ages ago?

No he never said it.

Well, I thought he did, he's non-consecutive. He has it available tonight, I will not be revealing if Thor tells me he commutes or not from here on out.

[Ranmaru]

Gamma: I thought it was more likely that he died due to his role, but I never said I was sure on who he targeted. I don't see how it has to be that he targeted you and you only if he died by using his role.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was the only person he left a clear crumb on, and I don't see him going off the rails.

[Jodaxq]

Joda, where is your head at in terms of scumreads right now?

I'm pretty unsure about OTM but I'm leaning scum. Chara's argument about them being town makes sense, but I find it hard to believe that this kind of logic comes from two different people in the same slot unless the slot is scum.

I'm not sold on Klazam scum. It's just a feeling I have about his defiance of Joey when making his claim. I think scum would be much more willing to submit to a mass claim, especially if they were just going to claim VT.

I think BuJaber, Shaziro, and Gamma are town due to their claims or the way that they claimed.

I want to think one of Marshy and Pidgey is scum due to there likely being an orange religion spreader. If I had to choose I'd pick Marshy. I find both their posting townie though and if A50 was killed by scum it's more likely both of them are town.

That leaves Chara, Thor, and you. Chara and Thor's slot have very town by play but as I've said before I'm paranoid of them due to my other scum reads starting to look more town. I scum read your slot early and it's looking better now. You are still first in my POE pool.

[Jodaxq]

I cannot believe that orange wouldn't have a kill. How could that possibly be balanced?

[OnTheMark]

Okay, I can explain the lack of a kill. One scum team attacks Gamma, as you said, the other attacks A50.

Done. This is pretty simple.

Except as established killing a50 is a silly kill. It is much more likely an sK did it.

Town deals in most likely. Scum deals in what if.

It is much more likely an sK kill.

[OnTheMark]

I was the only person he left a clear crumb on, and I don't see him going off the rails.

As stated earlier I think he targeted Joey so I beg to differ there. But the common “consensus” is that Gamma was the target

[Ranmaru]

I say that only because I played in a large with two scum teams, one had a kill, the other team had a delayed poison kill. So I came to the conclusion orange scum may not have a kill, either to balance the setup or they get kills if red scum die before them. Otherwise, we have to keep guessing that all their shots were protected.