Open 719: Stack The Deck! (D4)

[Mathdino]

It really bothers me that both of these are so recent and really are only when they need to case just one person, by the way.

i just mean that their previous progressions were townish now that they've explained them

more points to wisdom for having a believable progression prior to actual mylo, yeah

[Mathdino]

the one thing that gets me is that wisdom was obviously recruited if he was the traitor

meaning dunnstral might not have responded to his updated role PM

[brassherald]

Well, HWS did say before they would have had to respond to the PM.

[brassherald]

Also, Dunn was replaced during the first phase, the pick phase, so he would not have had access to the mafia chat until after that phase unless he was an original mafia goon, right?

I think this is just you being crazy tinfoil, Math.

[Mathdino]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

yeah i was just going to say it would be just like dunnstral to not confirm his updated role PM but yeah that's a fair point

so in order for that tinfoil theory to be true, wisdom/beefster would've had to take a rolecop and recruit the traitor

but that's impossible because wisdom hardslipped not groupscum

[brassherald]

Dunnstral has not confirmed his role. I am looking for a replacement.

Wisdom replaces Dunnstral.

Role PMs to go out at the end of the end of the original 72-hour period, to not give away alignments. Expect the updates Role PMs at 3 PM EST.

Here are the two posts about roles and the replace in order

[brassherald]

I'm ready to vote then. Are you?

[Mathdino]

you can go ahead

i need to look over maria's progression once more

reverse burden of proficiency works on her

if her scumreads on scum were too on point then she's almost certainly scum yeah

and the fact that she's tryna take credit for scum lynches that she wasn't on is problematic

[brassherald]

VOTE: MariaR

I think I got one of my town reads wrong day 1, it seems.

[MariaR]

There's many reasons why I'm town and wisdom isn't but blah

[Mathdino]

yet you've managed to not give any of them

[Wisdom]

how about you selfhammer and save math the effort

[Mathdino]

maria in what universe do you genuinely believe you're easy to read

like do you just say that you're blatantly obvtown in every game as a canned line or something

because you're known to be one of the hardest to read players, you just won (in spirit) an extremely difficult SK game twice in the past year, you get mislynched a lot, and you get townread as scum

[MariaR]

Do you want me to town case myself I'll do it

[MariaR]

maria in what universe do you genuinely believe you're easy to read

like do you just say that you're blatantly obvtown in every game as a canned line or something

because you're known to be one of the hardest to read players, you just won (in spirit) an extremely difficult SK game twice in the past year, you get mislynched a lot, and you get townread as scum

I feel like people just say my scum range is insane so that makes me hard to read where in my mind some of the stuff I do I feel like it's obv I do as town but I'm clearly bias in this one of the most annoying things ever is when I feel like "wow I've done well I'm really towny" but people be like "well you're maria so you can be scum" I hate it so much it's why I make alts sometimes so that DOESN'T HAPPEN

[Mathdino]

why would you not have done it already

you've made a dozen posts hinting that you're obvtown or something

maria do you believe that your scumgames are not obvtown

[Mathdino]

there's also the fact that wisdom has been fairly forthcoming with his meta and with how the gamestate is consistent with you being scum

[Mathdino]

all your alts are public and have similar communication issues and subpar reads lol

like you're publicly known to be readable based on the quality of your reads (i.e. reverse burden of proficiency)

a way to not have this happen is
- stop bussing as scum
- get better reads as town

[MariaR]

I've had great reads on town and I don't town case myself because I didn't know if you want one

[MariaR]

This is my first town lylo ever where I don't have hammer

[MariaR]

I have 2 hidden alts and I've been doing faily well on them! Also when I feel like tryharding my reads have been super on point it just takes a lot out to do said tryharding.

[MariaR]

But that's not what I need to defend to 1 player who doesn't know my playstyle what so ever.
Do you want the town case or na

[Mathdino]

why does it matter if i want one lol

it's your prerogative to convince me and give me the information i need to make the right decision

[MariaR]

maria do you believe that your scumgames are not obvtown

Depends on the scum game but I feel like I can be really towny as scum yeah

[Mathdino]

like there's a point where not doing it is straight up denying me information

i wanted to see if you would ever actually provide the meta or stop calling yourself obvtown

or like

acknowledge that the vast majority of the site has no idea how to read you