Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[pinturicchio]

okay, let's argue about it in post game. jesus christ, pin.

Good idea, we're both getting frustrated and this could be perfectly me having trouble with english again

[pinturicchio]

if draynth is a pr, there are 3 scum in {the worst, ofrhz, skitter30, sunshine}

Sell me sunshine. I agree with the worst and ofrhz and strongly disagree with skitter, so sunshine is the only loose end

[Sunshine13]

Bearing in mind that would mean that 2/3 of the scum team are presently on the math wagon, and the third member has just informed us of their intent to hammer.

[ofrhz]

Actually I have to get to work

Can I swap votes with someone since I probably won’t be here closer to the deadline

[pinturicchio]

Sure.

UNVOTE: Mathdino

[ofrhz]

Thanks pin!!!

VOTE: Mathdino

[ruru]

if draynth is a pr, there are 3 scum in {the worst, ofrhz, skitter30, sunshine}

Why?

[brassherald]

Actually I have to get to work

Can I swap votes with someone since I probably won’t be here closer to the deadline

Please note I have frozen the deadline until I find a replacement for Scionness.

[Oxy]

1)Sunshine is experienced
2)We have no meta on him
3)Some of his ideas have made me think, "huh, that doesn't make sense coming from an experienced player" e.g., his focus on +information lynches
4) 1+3 could imply that he comes from a community that is simply bad at this game, or it could imply a scum motivation
5) He has been hyper sensitive of scum/town reads on him all game (from his ofrhz push to him thinking that I was scum reading him when I wasn't.)

There's more, but I don't really want to case him until D2

[Oxy]

if draynth is a pr, there are 3 scum in {the worst, ofrhz, skitter30, sunshine}

Why?

Why 3 in those 4?
ruru is town
pinturicchio is town
SS is town
Mathdino is town
UglyDuck is town
AP is likely town
Draynth being a PR would make him town

In my head NSG was likely town, but this didn't take into account math explicitely not TR'ing her, so add her into that group of 3.

Also, I'm scum reading the worst and ofrhz pretty confidently, and skitter to a lesser extent. Sunshine has been fighting his way down my read list.

[ruru]

@ofrhz

(skitter, Scioness) could be a thing if you look at their posts in ISO

Which interactions should we be looking at specifically?

When you have time I'm interested in this

[Sunshine13]

1)Sunshine is experienced
2)We have no meta on him
3)Some of his ideas have made me think, "huh, that doesn't make sense coming from an experienced player" e.g., his focus on +information lynches
4) 1+3 could imply that he comes from a community that is simply bad at this game, or it could imply a scum motivation
5) He has been hyper sensitive of scum/town reads on him all game (from his ofrhz push to him thinking that I was scum reading him when I wasn't.)

There's more, but I don't really want to case him until D2

1. NAI
2. NAI
3. We know that singular example you give was because I think you're scum, meaning the lynch we were getting was a -information mislynch, which is stupid. Explain how that's anti-town from outside your perspective as the other wagon at that point.
4. I'll let them know that they're bad for 3. Also, everyone with lots of games and no meta is obvscum?
5. ofrhz was a pressure thing (caused from annoyance at people sheeping math on my townread without reason, nobody was explaining that so I'd get something going with the opposite) and you're scum so yeah you're going to make people voting you look bad. Obvious OMGUS is obvious.

I mean if this is the basis of the case for D2, I'll see y'all in D3.

[Oxy]

1 and 2 were the context in which to read 3, 4, and 5.

You still seem hypersensitive of scum cases on you

And it's especially odd considering you think I'm scum

[ruru]

Sunshine do you think Md+Oxy is plausible?

[northsidegal]

Why are we voting math

[pinturicchio]

We're scumreading him!

[Mathdino]

You guys can't be serious

[Mathdino]

all you had to do was leave me for D2 and let me do my work dodging the nightkill

i hardclaim PR, everyone is that much less likely to be a PR from my POV

[Mathdino]

Mathdino(5) ~ skitter30(84), ruru(166), pinturicchio(98), the worst(389), Draynth(51)

this wagon is most likely all town, possible exception of skitter

scum sees me as a radioactive wagon

i'm NEVER d1 mislynched by scum

[Mathdino]

Draynth(4) ~ northsidegal(104), UglyDuck(62), ofrhz(141), AP(100)
Scioness Sajj(1) ~ Mathdino(235)
Oxy(1) ~ Sunshine13(54)
ofrhz(1) ~ Scioness Sajj(86)


Not Voting (1): Oxy(233)

what does that mean, you ask?

if there ARE scum on my wagon, i'm being retaliatory wagoned for trying to lynch scioness. so something like skitter/scioness. not sure how much sense that one makes.

draynth wagon was scum motivated through and through.

your lynchpool: {UglyDuck, AP, Sunshine, Scioness}

the reasons i had for townreading AP were less valid than i'd hoped upon reconsideration

you wanted mathdino to be townish, congratufuckinglations you've killed me N1 yet again

[Sunshine13]

1 and 2 were the context in which to read 3, 4, and 5.

You still seem hypersensitive of scum cases on you

And it's especially odd considering you think I'm scum

What scum cases have been brought against me, other your own, that I've been hypersensitive about?

I'm hypersensitive about your case because you're scum, and didn't start scumreading me until that became obvious, looking for any reason to drop me further and further down your reads list.

Like I said, obvious OMGUS is obvious.

But I'll bite, because I want to see how much more you have to say about it.

Why is it odd, considering I think you're scum?

Sunshine do you think Md+Oxy is plausible?

Math hasn't really responded to much of Oxy's buddying, and he's quite clever. Best way to distance yourself from someone is have them buddy you and then be de-facto cleared by the rest of the players because scum wouldn't buddy scum.

[Oxy]

I should have said scum reads, not cases, and I've given examples. I'm not 1v1'ing you right now, though mate.

I'm kind of surprised you're responding to me rather than unvoting math, tbh.

[Sunshine13]

I'm kind of surprised you think I care what you think about me at this point, m80.

However, I do care about one thing. Perhaps you can talk us through what you expect to happen to math - town!math and scum!math - from this point until the start of D2. Loosely, basically whether or not he gets lynched, and whether or not he gets NK'd as each alignment. Maybe throw in why you think each thing, too. Preferably lay it out so you're talking about each one separately; I'm lazy.

For extra credit you can also tell us what associations you can draw for each one, too.

[Sunshine13]

Remembering that we think there's a vig in there too, just in case you get smart and say scum!math won't get NK'd 'cause he's on the scum team.

[Oxy]

Sorry, professor. I'm not in your class, and I have no interest in your homework assignments.

And that has nothing to do with the game. I just don't like you.