Newbie 1863: Rugby - Game Over

[teacher]

Thor want to beat Smith to disclosing. And want to suggest actions for tomorrow?

[Thor665]

Uh huh.

I'm going to flip town.
So now when I call you tunneled you can at least know I was being honest in my thoughts

I'd say there is a lot of scum energy around my wagon and it's hard to sort through it all because THERE WAS SO MUCH IFFY PLAY!
Teacher uses bad logic and twists reality - but maybe he's just tunneled.
Oxy is dodgy and ducking - but maybe he's just tunneled and honestly thinks talking is anti-town.
Flicker is opportunistic (but maybe he just didn't think I was scoring any points in the debate.
Meji was trying to white knight (but maybe she's the only half decent player here).

Ehhhhh...

I still lean towards Oxy as most likely scum.
Meji is an okay second but heavily tied with Flicker.
Please don't sheep anything teacher says - actually use your brains and debate.
This town needs more discussion and less blind sheeping.

Good luck!

[Thor665]

Thor want to beat Smith to disclosing. And want to suggest actions for tomorrow?

Ignore you.
Maybe lynch you for tunneling

[Thor665]

So you're thinking Flicker *isn't* Meji's partner anymore?
Or are you just ducking my question of if Meji/Flicker is a thing it defeats the entire silly idea of lynching me to clear Meji your stronger scumread?

Not ducking your question. If I ever thought Meji-Flicker were a thing, I would agree that I should lynch Meji. But I never did, and I still dont, think Meji-Flicker could be a team. (reasons include 136, 265, and 574 and the next paragraph)

Then why tell me Flicker is a potential Meji buddy if after I point out how that invalidates your stance to lynch me you then need to backtrack?
This is scummy as hell or really sloppy play.

Since Meji is the alternative lynch to you, I would expect a hammer. Especially since I have stated that town you clears her scum partner in my point of view. So I am pointing out that I find the team you have proposed is even more incredible now than it was before.

Okay...?

[teacher]

Tracking is going to be interesting if he flips town. For example, I cant decide if NK is likely to go to the deep or shallow end of the PoE pool. Looking at associatives makes (Nauci Elephant Flicker) the richest. I wonder if I should go there, or assume NK will. Conversely, going off scummiest, the richest is (Meji, Nauci, Flicker). Knowing both those facts though makes Oxy tempting. Enough for now....I dont think there is much to be gained from this exercise. Really hoping this is a scum flip!

Good luck everyone tonight.

[Not Known 15]

I'm going to flip town.

I doubt that.
But if its true...
again, my plan.... when I die pressure the low posters Nauci, Flicker, Meji. Pressure Oxy for Thor's case.
Follow teacher's leads.

[Thor665]

Tracking is going to be interesting

if he flips town

. For example, I cant decide if NK is likely to go to the deep or shallow end of the PoE pool. Looking at associatives makes (Nauci Elephant Flicker) the richest. I wonder if I should go there, or assume NK will. Conversely, going off scummiest, the richest is (Meji, Nauci, Flicker). Knowing both those facts though makes Oxy tempting. Enough for now....I dont think there is much to be gained from this exercise. Really hoping this is a scum flip!

Good luck everyone tonight.

I'm going to flip town.

I doubt that.

But if its true...
again, my plan.... when I die pressure the low posters Nauci, Flicker, Meji. Pressure Oxy for Thor's case.
Follow teacher's leads.

You two, and I know for a fact one of you is town, ARE TUNNELED BLIND.
Holy cow.
Get out of the tunnel and communicate with people functionally - especially in twilight.

@NK - Teahcer's plans and reads have been TERRIBLE stop advising everyone to "trust" him.
He's not confirmed, and his reads haven't shown quality, so what are they supposed to trust him on exactly?

This pains my soul, get used to being wrong, it happens all the time in Mafia, the important thing is not to double down on wrong.

[teacher]

he has no reason to lie. I hope we dont cross streams again, since you (as only conf town) will die tonight.

[teacher]

Get out of the tunnel and communicate with people functionally - especially in twilight.

Why do you think we werent?

[Thor665]

Describe how you think you are?

[Thor665]

I mean, it's objectively factual NK wasn't.
I don't think you were either - but feel free to describe it to me.

[Not Known 15]

Tracking is going to be interesting

if he flips town

. For example, I cant decide if NK is likely to go to the deep or shallow end of the PoE pool. Looking at associatives makes (Nauci Elephant Flicker) the richest. I wonder if I should go there, or assume NK will. Conversely, going off scummiest, the richest is (Meji, Nauci, Flicker). Knowing both those facts though makes Oxy tempting. Enough for now....I dont think there is much to be gained from this exercise. Really hoping this is a scum flip!

Good luck everyone tonight.

I'm going to flip town.

I doubt that.

But if its true...
again, my plan.... when I die pressure the low posters Nauci, Flicker, Meji. Pressure Oxy for Thor's case.
Follow teacher's leads.

You two, and I know for a fact one of you is town, ARE TUNNELED BLIND.
Holy cow.
Get out of the tunnel and communicate with people functionally - especially in twilight.

@NK - Teahcer's plans and reads have been TERRIBLE stop advising everyone to "trust" him.
He's not confirmed, and his reads haven't shown quality, so what are they supposed to trust him on exactly?

This pains my soul, get used to being wrong, it happens all the time in Mafia, the important thing is not to double down on wrong.

This does not convince me at all to change my plan. It seems like we have just different reads on everybody. And I trust mine more because of your "min 1 scum in wagon" deathtunneling.

[Thor665]

I understand it's not getting you to change your plan.
But by what evidence do you think teacher's reads should be followed exactly?

[Thor665]

I'm also fascinated that I'm being accused of 'death tunneling' a game theory, not a player.

[Oxy]

thor, mate, your reads are no better than anyone else this game, if you're town

because you seem to think that I am scum

which is pretty awful

so probably less with the insulting and trash talk /shrug

[Oxy]

oh and let's not forget how you vote parked james

and wouldn't reconsider

[Oxy]

so get off the high horse. You could have tried to help, but you pretty much just threw a tantrum.

[Meji Fan]

What are last thoughts on Nauci and Elephant?

[Thor665]

thor, mate, your reads are no better than anyone else this game, if you're town

I'm not saying they are.
I am saying (and have been saying all day) that the case on me is based on a tunnel, bad math, and no actual scum reasons.

I presented scum reasons on you and tried to debate you on them - you never engaged. :shrug:

so probably less with the insulting and trash talk /shrug

I'm not trash talking.
I may be insulting - if you can think of a better way I can convey my points without sounding insulting I will be happy for it.

so get off the high horse. You could have tried to help, but you pretty much just threw a tantrum.

How did I not try to help?
I answered all questions.
I offered my reads constantly.
I countered the case on me point for point.


I think others could have helped me by reading my posts and not being tunneled, yeah?

[Thor665]

What are last thoughts on Nauci and Elephant?

Maybe scum.
Town.

[Thor665]

@Oxy - dead serious, if you think i just threw a tantrum, ask the listmod to check me out. if I'm doing that I shouldn't be an IC.

[mhsmith0]

Votecount 2.Final

Oxy (1)Thor665 ,
Nauci (1)Meji Fan ,
Meji Fan (1)Irrelephant11

Thor665 (5)Nauci, Not Known 15, Oxy, teacher, Flicker L-0

Day two deadline is Wednesday May 9, 9 AM PST. (expired on 2018-05-09 09:00:00)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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[mhsmith0]

Thor665 was lynched. He was

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Night two deadline is Thursday May 3, 10 AM PST. (expired on 2018-05-03 10:00:00). Please PM me your intended night actions.

[mhsmith0]

Replacing Nauci

[mhsmith0]

Brassherald replaces nauci effective immediately.