Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[AP]

Ahaha that would assume scum knew math was ic prior to him outing never mind.

NVM. I spoke too fast.

[AP]

OK. so here's what I think:

- If there's a Cop who

had already used up his shot

, please claim
- If there's a Vig who

had already used up one shot

, please claim

Nobody else should claim yet, and neither of the two should claim in they have not acted last night.

[Oxy]

More like if there's a jk scum thought draynth wasn't it.

@sunshine: individual's choice, whatever's contextually apropriate

Okay, I think I understand now.

From the context of previous posts, I thought you and NSG were living in a world where our PR's are IC, JK, Vig

But you're actually living in the world of IC, JK, Cop/tracker

Where scum was avoiding Math because they didn't want to get blocked by JK

And they didn't kill draynth because they thought he was the cop/tracker, or because they knew he was scum

And they thought TW might be the JK.

--

Knowing that scum chose a kill that doesn't exactly make me look great,

I wonder if part of the wifom wasn't to also implicate Draynth.

Otherwise, the above theory seems as plausible as anything else.

p.edit I agree with what AP's 2251

[Sunshine13]

I know I know.

[northsidegal]

@nsg @skitter
This theory assumes that the jk targeted draynth, right?
And in doing so, the jk must have believed draynth was scum, otherwise they were trying to stop vig!Draynth or 1shotcop! Draynth from using their role?

No? I'm not sure where you get that assumption from at all.

[northsidegal]

If there’s a jk, it would probably mean there were no scum on math’s wagon as to avoid him outing himself.

Explain?

Contextually appropriate play would be to protect math, meaning scum would be looking for the jk. You have a 1 in 3 chance of blocking the kill, versus a guarantee of protecting town.

Would scum be silly enough to put an IC and a jk in the game though?

I think it may have been suggested last time I was scum in a pick your poison game, don't really remember.

[northsidegal]

Yeah nevermind don't bother explaining you already realized. Never do gamma-style catchups kids.

[pinturicchio]

I'm more convinced about the idea of living Dino alive because he wasn't townreading NSG, implying that they want to mislynch NSG today

[Oxy]

No? I'm not sure where you get that assumption from at all.

Do you still need this explained, or did you see my later post?

[Oxy]

I'm more convinced about the idea of living Dino alive because he wasn't townreading NSG, implying that they want to mislynch NSG today

If we knew this to be the case, this would pretty much clears at least Skitter, you, and me. I don't think any of us give IC!dino an entire second day to find a strong town read on NSG.

If they're keeping Mathdino alive because of his reads, I think it is more likely because of the scum he is town reading than because of the town he is scum reading.

[pinturicchio]

I'm more convinced about the idea of living Dino alive because he wasn't townreading NSG, implying that they want to mislynch NSG today

If we knew this to be the case, this would pretty much clears at least Skitter, you, and me. I don't think any of us give IC!dino an entire second day to find a strong town read on NSG.

If they're keeping Mathdino alive because of his reads, I think it is more likely because of the scum he is town reading than because of the town he is scum reading.

I don't think it clears anyone except NSG.

[Oxy]

Then I guess I no longer think it would clear you (since you are implying that you wouldn't mind giving town!math another day to read town!nsg)

What do you think about the second line, tho? That's the one i think is more likely.

[northsidegal]

I'm more convinced about the idea of living Dino alive because he wasn't townreading NSG, implying that they want to mislynch NSG today

I think i've been mislynched maybe once this entire year. if that's their plan, it's not going to work out.

[northsidegal]

I mean, draynth is scum, right?

Like, why isn't he dead.

[northsidegal]

I think it's far more likely that the reason scum didn't kill math is because a jailkeeper exists in the setup rather than that he doesn't have good reads, unless math is very, very deep within scum's pockets.

[pinturicchio]

I don't know Oxy, I haven't thought anything about nothing yet, I'm just saying what I think would explain why scum decided killing tw instead of Dino. And I don't care if you clear me or not, I'm not townreading you, exactly because of posts like that. "I no longer think it would clear you"... So if I said "wow Oxy I agree with you, we're cleared!!" you would townread me? WTF

[pinturicchio]

I'm more convinced about the idea of living Dino alive because he wasn't townreading NSG, implying that they want to mislynch NSG today

I think i've been mislynched maybe once this entire year. if that's their plan, it's not going to work out.

Why would scum know that? We've talked about how great is Dino at reading you, so given that info, it's not crazy to believe that scum thought they could mislynch you with Dino leading the wagon.

Btw, I'm townreading you, if you didn't noticed already

[Oxy]

I don't know Oxy, I haven't thought anything about nothing yet, I'm just saying what I think would explain why scum decided killing tw instead of Dino. And I don't care if you clear me or not, I'm not townreading you, exactly because of posts like that. "I no longer think it would clear you"... So if I said "wow Oxy I agree with you, we're cleared!!" you would townread me? WTF

I said that if we knew it to be true, then it would mean x people clear.

This is not the same as saying someone is cleared. At all.

[pinturicchio]

I mean, draynth is scum, right?

Like, why isn't he dead.

Yeah, this is a good point, but is WIFOM. I will insist until I die that Draynth has not claimed yet, he was never at L-1, and maybe scum believed that he was VT pulling a mind game... But by occam's razor, they should've killed him, so I want to see what he has to say about this.

[pinturicchio]

I don't know Oxy, I haven't thought anything about nothing yet, I'm just saying what I think would explain why scum decided killing tw instead of Dino. And I don't care if you clear me or not, I'm not townreading you, exactly because of posts like that. "I no longer think it would clear you"... So if I said "wow Oxy I agree with you, we're cleared!!" you would townread me? WTF

I said that if we knew it to be true, then it would mean x people clear.

This is not the same as saying someone is cleared. At all.

Yeah sure. It was a gross example, but my point stays the same.

[Oxy]

alright, mate. tunnel me all game, that's fine.
The idea that they kept mathdino alive to lynch nsg is absolute shit, tho.

[UglyDuck]

Morning everyone -

I think the considerations of Math's reads might be reading slightly far into the situation, or it isn't - but either way skum gets what they want out of it. If they didn't choose based on Math's reads then we create chaos by talking about it. If they did choose based off of Math's reads then it is just ultimate WIFOM... for proof look at everything that has been said so far lol.

Here is the part where the noob says something and gets slammed for it, but I think I am right so whatever.
From a Skum perspective the choice of who to target had to be essentially weighed between "Value of Dead!Dino vs Value of Dead!PR vs Value of Dead!VT".
Now, from context I am gaining that Math is a strong player, so obv not the easiest choice. But still... I believe that the fact that he is IC, thus making it impossible for him to be one of the other PRs, would be a fairly significant reason for skum to have aimed elsewhere in hopes of finding a PR.

[AP]

VOTE: Draynth

Let's do this, people.

[northsidegal]

I'm more convinced about the idea of living Dino alive because he wasn't townreading NSG, implying that they want to mislynch NSG today

I think i've been mislynched maybe once this entire year. if that's their plan, it's not going to work out.

Why would scum know that? We've talked about how great is Dino at reading you, so given that info, it's not crazy to believe that scum thought they could mislynch you with Dino leading the wagon.

Btw, I'm townreading you, if you didn't noticed already

I'm not saying that they don't believe that - they very well could.

What i'm saying is that

if

it's their plan, it's not going to happen.

[pinturicchio]

alright, mate. tunnel me all game, that's fine.
The idea that they kept mathdino alive to lynch nsg is absolute shit, tho.

1. Not tunneling you.
2. Haven't insulted you or your reads.

Back off