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Post Post #5600 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 9:50 am

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In post 3591, Klazam wrote:TOWN
almost50
pidgey (not aligned with varsoon)

ORANGE POTENTIALITES
marshy (POE based from exempting pidgey)
Titus (Varsson fencesits so hard on this)


BOTH
BuJaber (Varsoon chainsaw defence, Dunk auto-townreading him in a crowd of confirmed townies)
Kiana Kaslana (did not see any scum mention this slot whatsover)

RED POTENTIALITIES
Chara (not aligned with varsoon)

Casear (Maybe due to dunk's drawing connections between townGamma and Casear?)
going back to an ancient post of mine, i feel good heh.
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Post Post #5601 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 9:51 am

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Its either marshy or Bu, i'd say.

marshy goes first though
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Post Post #5602 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 9:52 am

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HEAL: brass as host, with all of my votes let's get this out of the way.
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Post Post #5603 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 9:53 am

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I'm torn, Marshy more likely scum by play, pidgey more likely by claim.

I'm good with either order.
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Post Post #5604 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 9:54 am

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In post 5603, brassherald wrote:I'm torn, Marshy more likely scum by play, pidgey more likely by claim.

I'm good with either order.
how come? they claimed the same thing
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Post Post #5605 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 9:57 am

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Flavor, Catholicism is more supportive of the sciences.

But, I need to check something.
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Post Post #5606 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 10:01 am

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Hmm. I dont think flavor would matter in this context.
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Post Post #5607 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 10:02 am

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Okay, no it doesn't. Disregard my research I was just doing to try to break the game.
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Post Post #5608 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 10:11 am

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@mod are we required to complete a World Congress election before ending the day?
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Post Post #5609 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 10:25 am

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Bujaber why are you treating yourself as town more than joda and klazam lol. Please, if you REALLY think I can be orange scum with Mark, READ MARK'S ISO. There is no way in hell id fight a teammate like that if I was his buddy. He was being an asshole lol

Also PLEEEEEASE stop treating gamma as conf town.

I do think that a religion spreader can be scum for balance sake. I know that puts me in the nooze relatively closer, but its a possibility that with the new mod rules cannot be ignored, as I myself brought up.

Klazam- you mean if i was orange scum what i would have done? Dude I swear i would have easily just left my vote on you and probably not return for the final 12 hours to vote on my own teammate, i swear that's easily what I would have avoided in doing lol, which is what i ended up doing.
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Post Post #5610 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 10:27 am

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if you think im scum, you give me too much credit as a player

LOL

ME RIO EN EL SUELO
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Post Post #5611 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 10:29 am

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In post 5610, pidgey wrote:if you think im scum, you give me too much credit as a player

LOL

ME RIO EN EL SUELO
I dont think youre scum for what its worth, just wanted to see what you'd say there.

Pretty sure its between bu and marshy here.
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Post Post #5612 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 10:40 am

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Joda claim whatever yah got.
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Post Post #5613 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 1:17 pm

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In post 5612, pidgey wrote:Joda claim whatever yah got.
I don't know what I have. I roleblocked Thor last night. I feel like this either clears him or implicates him if Chara made both kills. I feel like he would. Why wouldn't you use both your factional kill and strongman kill if you could?
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Post Post #5614 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 2:04 pm

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That's not how strongman works.
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Post Post #5615 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 2:09 pm

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In post 5614, brassherald wrote:That's not how strongman works.
I don't understand
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Post Post #5616 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 5608, brassherald wrote:
@mod are we required to complete a World Congress election before ending the day?
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Post Post #5617 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 2:40 pm

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yo guys

im not scum. if you doubt this look at early d1 where varsoon shat on me out of nowhere in a non partners way. cuz im guessing we hav an orange left

and idk who is. i see the religion spreader logic but i assure you im town and that ran would hav told you guys if i was scum. im also not convinced pidgey is scum. if im right thats 2 mislynches which is terribad

i hav to think. after that chara flip i realize ive been kinda lazy with my reads and cant just write ppl off like i did her
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Post Post #5618 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 5:15 pm

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to be honest both scum roles kinda semi mirror so it would also break the pace to have 2 religion spreaders as scum mirroring each other. Maybe something that would cancel religions which no one has clain or i dunno.

i feel it would make sense for mashy to be scum but
In post 5583, marshy wrote:scum were weak af lol

cept chara. she played a great game

I just dont think scum would post that either ugh
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Post Post #5619 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 6:15 pm

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P, I’m wondering that too, what if the mystery scum is an anti religion role. I wouldn’t know how to design that though, given that religion had a pretty small impact other than when we announced Taoism as world religion.

I’d still hang marshy first, then figure out the rest.
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Post Post #5620 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 9:36 pm

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Treat me as being on both wagons.
Look at how much I pushed and criticized mark. I BUILT that wagon. Ran's crazy theories were what made me hesitate because it felt like one of them is town and I couldn't decide who.

I'm town and I don't think gamma can be scum. What did he do to brass night 1 if he were scum?
Thor I think is also locktown and brass is IC.
That leaves marshy, pidgey, klazam, jodax.
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Post Post #5621 (ISO) » Fri May 04, 2018 11:01 pm

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Wagon analysis
In post 1839, Maestro wrote:
Votecount 1.14


LYNCHED [11]
creature
:
Kokichi Oma
,
Nero Cain
,
Almost50
,
Chara
, marshy,
Shaziro
,
Ranmaru
, Gamma Emerald,
Elbirn
, Titus,
brassherald

[2]
Gamma Emerald:
ActionDan
, Klazam
[4]
Klazam:
pidgey,
Varsoon
, Jodaxq, BuJaber

NOT VOTING
:
  • Kiana Kaslana (LaserGuy)
    ,
    Creature
    ,
    Dunkerdoodles
    , Joey_
In post 3404, Venmar wrote:
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[2]
Gamma Emerald:
Titus (OnTheMark)
,
Ranmaru

[LYNCHED]
ActionDan:
marshy,
Brassherald
,
Chara
,
shaziro
, pidgey,
Almost50
,
Kokichi Oma
, Joey_,
Kiana Kaslana (LaserGuy)

[6]
ranmaru:
Jodaxq, BuJaber,
Nero Cain
, Gamma Emerald,
Actiondan
, Klazam
In post 4608, Maestro wrote:
Votecount 3.FINAL


[8]
LaserGuy:
brassherald
,
OnTheMark
, Klazam, BuJaber, Joey_,
Ranmaru
, Gamma Emerald,
LaserGuy
:left:
LYNCH

[2]
Klazam:
Marshy,
Chara
,
Almost50

[1]
OnTheMark:
Shaziro

[2]
Ranmaru:
Jodaxq, pidgey
In post 5475, Maestro wrote:
Votecount 4.7

[5]
Klazam
: marshy, Gamma Emerald, BuJaber, Thor665,
OnTheMark

[7]
OnTheMark
:
Shaziro
, Klazam, Jodaxq,
Ranmaru
, pidgey,
brassherald
,
chara


So Klazam actually looks pretty good here. Him being kept alive as lynchbait possibly. Many of us who voted for him before are still alive.
But if I recall correctly he was one of the first to come up with last orange is religion spreader theory. Which if both are town makes him look really suspicious because that idea has been a huge part of the discussion and analysis.
Mark was also heavily implying that if orange had religion spreader A50 kill was stupid. Which really makes me think he is defending his religion spreader buddy.
Jodax and Pidgey never vote with titus/Mark on any wagon.
I'd be very surprised if marshy is scum. He seems to stick to his votes and just stay there. If Klazam is town it also points to marshy being town since he tried to kill him twice. I don't think he'd keep him alive given that.
I think it's between gamma, jodax, and pidgey. But I can't think of why scum!gamma would target brass night 1.
Not sure why jodax confirmed gamma's brass visit.. maybe to make him look bad?
And if pidgey is scum why start day 5 talking about how he's confirmed not to have committed the kill when that is a lie. Seems rediculously risky when you can get outed by mod.


Honestly I'm leaning towards jodax now. With 2nd option being pidgey/marshy.
But claim-wise I'd be more tempted to believe jodax over gamma. Inventor is a convenient claim but it is also a weird one to fake. Do we know if scum were given fake claims?

I'm just gonna trust my gamma townread. Also the fact that shaziro killed dunk so night 1 elbirn died by scum. Best way to make gamma look bad.

So if I am right and scum is one of {jodax, pidgey, marshy} we can win this by lynching them in any order.
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Post Post #5622 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 1:36 am

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The lack of orange scum on the Creature and Action Dan lynches is really screaming out to me.
And there's Marshy on both.
Feels pretty legit.

Does anyone have a town case for Marshy?
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Post Post #5623 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 1:37 am

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@Marshy - I did see you town case yourself, feel free to provide actual links, I'm not ISO diving.
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Post Post #5624 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 1:58 am

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So, we've had 4 night phases. N2 all religion was blocked

Pidgey Convert attempts
N1: Nero
N3: Klazam - confirmed
N4: Joda Confirmed

Marshy
N1: Chara
N3: No one was converted
N4: BuJaber

VOTE: Marshy

Explain N3.
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