Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[northsidegal]

zzz waiting for my scumreads to actually be here

[northsidegal]

math have you realized that i'm town yet

[Mathdino]

i have stronger townreads elsewhere

this game isn't exactly solved with a nice bow quite yet

[northsidegal]

go back and look at mohab and his meta

[Oxy]

TW was one of the ones who basically claimed VT, tho. I'm not sure how likely it was to be picked up, tho. Even though I quoted it multiple times.

Although tbf I couldn't find where he had quoted it.

I *think* he was alluding to tw as one of those four people here:

and I'm not one of the, count em, 4 people who have inadvertently claimed VT this game

Pin is right that I was super tunneled on TW as scum.

That doesn't mean I missed the VT claim, tho. Did you want me to find you the quote?

[Oxy]

I'm saying that tw's vt claim wasn't obvious (at least, it wasn't to me), and it would be weird for scum!oxy to have noticed that and then kill tw when it looks like scum were pr-hunting.

Like it's weird to kill outside of the ic. To me, that implies scum were jk-hunting (or wanting to give the appearance thereof). If you're tracking the people who claimed vt, it's really weird to kill one of them in that scenario imo.

Ohhhhhh. I never understood your point until this post. heh.

[Oxy]

i have stronger townreads elsewhere

this game isn't exactly solved with a nice bow quite yet

not game related, but I want the right imagery.

Is this "bow" as in to take a bow, or put a bow on a wrapped gift.

[Mathdino]

it's pronounced like bow

[Oxy]

lol, are you trolling me rn?

[northsidegal]

math is wrong, it's pronounced "bow"

[Oxy]

Forget the vig, tonight I'll shoot you both with my bow >.<

[northsidegal]

how would you shoot me with the front of a ship?

[Oxy]

[Oxy]

Oh, right. This game is full of

Star Wars

fans. RIP

[AP]

Interesting how y'all pronounce m'name

[Mathdino]

i prefer star trek personally
the memes about the prequels are making fun of star wars prequels and their hilariously bad writing

so does anyone feel like lynching draynth through a claim?

[Oxy]

I'll lynch him through a vig claim or a cop claim for sure.

[AP]

I'm lynching him with or without a claim now. I don't care if he claims to be brassherald even!

[ruru]

[UglyDuck]

do you need to be subtle when you're telling someone that you're town

jfc it was sarcasm....

also answering this

uglyduck you do realise that we can gain information by figuring out what different people would choose as scum

I was attempting to make a "joke" by saying "my opinions do not matter because I was not skum in this set up to pick from the pool." As in - hey I am town and did not have a part in that.
I do in fact understand the importance of who would pick what and the info we could gain in regards to skum's PR selection.

The thing I don't get, is that there is just no damn way that they put IC and JK in this game. Especially given the events to date:
- Math does the IC claim- ok so they figure out who that person is
- we go to night 1 and they know there is Role X Role Y and Math!IC - If there is a JK they kill outside Math, and I do not get the disagreement here, but as Math has know potential of producing addtionial results.... why would they kill the IC N1 instead of aiming outside even without the JK in play? The last game I was in on this site, skum chose to kill the IC N1 and I thought it was wrong then too. Especially in a game like this where they have the Day Chat... The IC is confirmed town... but they are not confirmed correct. No one thinks that skum would see the advantage in playing off of that?
- As many have mentioned there was the Draynth L-2 non claim thing - OK yeah, might be skum. but in context to this point... and again surprised at the lack of assertion on this concept - obv they would of thought about that. In your minds, let me put it this way, " if they are willing to kill off of the IC to create chaos, why would they not be willing to also choose to kill off of the next best chaotic option?"
The reason I am OK with a Draynth lynch is because skum both would lynch him if he was town and wouldn't lynch him if he was skum. However, to skum read him without considering the WIFOM alternative is (imo) super skummy. the fact his D2 wagon started so quickly is at least slightly suspicious as well.

All in all this all seems like a plan from the get go and the answer is going to end up being Track/Cop/IC or [tracker, cop], IC, Vig. Most likely the first as it would explain the mindset behind shooting off of the IC (combined with the one kill).

I get how deducing the logic behind the skum selection is beneficial, but at this point I feel like it is derailing everyone. Or whatever, maybe I am wrong and there is some super meta you all have that justifies pairing IC with JK, but honestly I just don't see that being an option.

[brassherald]

Votecount 2.4

Draynth(4)

~ AP(11), Oxy(16), Not_Mafia(1), skitter30(13)

UglyDuck(1)

~ ruru(20)


Not Voting (6): Mathdino(16), Draynth(2), Sunshine13(6), UglyDuck(4), northsidegal(14), pinturicchio(12)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-13 07:00:00)

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[Oxy]

I'm in work at the minute will catch up and post when I get home

Okay, yeah. Draynth could claim Oxy's Mom and I'd still push for a lynch at this point.

Holding up the game is bad form.

[ruru]

I'm ready for d3

Draynth, if you're actually a PR, the best thing you can do right now is just post your night action before someone decides to lol-1 vote you

I think you're going to get scumread no matter what it was at this point

The reason I am OK with a Draynth lynch is because skum both would lynch him if he was town and wouldn't lynch him if he was skum. However, to skum read him without considering the WIFOM alternative is (imo) super skummy. the fact his D2 wagon started so quickly is at least slightly suspicious as well.

Also I'm scumreading this

[AP]

I'm in work at the minute will catch up and post when I get home

Okay, yeah. Draynth could claim Oxy's Mom and I'd still push for a lynch at this point.

Holding up the game is bad form.

How much would you demand for giving me the exclusive rights to run an account named "Oxy's Mom"?

[Oxy]

Unconditional love, and all of your earthly possessions at the time of your death.

Sound good?