Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[Wisdom]

youre unbelievable

[NicoRobin]

Nah, just stubborn, much like you.

[MOMOMEN]

can u 2 shut up about nai irrelevant shit lmao

[Wisdom]

can you go back to voting sudo

[MOMOMEN]

Cheeky and I have odd night/even night versions of the same beeboy role. We each know the other, and that we ourselves are Town. This role, which we both have, is of no utility to scum and only makes sense for Town. We are not Masons, and are technically not confirmed to each other, but Town/Town is the only conclusion that makes any sense.

Cheeky - do me a favor and don't reveal more than that.

See? Thank you. That is not the only conclusion that makes sense. I don't think there's any need to reveal the role.

Now, for the less fun for you part. If the roles a cop, doctor, any other similar thing, then that doesn't say ...anything... about your alignments. When I've seen odd/even night of the same/similar roles its scum/town about half the time, and t/t the other half, plus the random scum even night roleblocked scum odd night roleblocker type things. Unless its friendly neighbour or the like it means nothing for your alignments.

Which is why Cheeky was completely off base calling you conf town and if you're scum could've been actively gamethrowing. Maybe you're town, maybe you're not, but its not because of the role. Lol. Alisae, you're a goddamn game designer this is not something I should have to tell you.

[NicoRobin]

Nope.

[MOMOMEN]

{MOMO, Yume, Mastina, Beeboy, Lovebird, Cheeky}


6 out of 13 players. this game is almost solved.

Still relevant.

[MOMOMEN]

can you go back to voting sudo

Its about time to end this day, is that who you're sure you want to do?

[NicoRobin]

There are still 10 days left. What's the rush?

[Wisdom]

can you go back to voting sudo

Its about time to end this day, is that who you're sure you want to do?

yes

[mastina]

EXPLAIN IN WHICH UNIVERSE IS SCUMREADING A MASON A TOWNY MOVE.

In the universe where we don't know you are masons and youre not a trustworthy player

Yeah the thing is.

When I am a town neighbor and not a mason, I am--relatively speaking--fairly quick to claim said "mason". I typically try not to claim it immediately, obviously, but the mason gambit doesn't do any good if you never actually claim the masonry.

That's not this game.

This game I have been holding back from being explicit. Yes I've been softing, but I've tried to prevent outright confirming it. I am, in fact, a mason with Nico Robin. We have daychat, even. Nico sent the message to Sudowoodo before consulting with me, which is why I was miffed that of all people, SUDOWOODO was the one to know.

I also never fakeclaim as scum.

In spite of times I have gotten close to it, never once have I done the mason gambit as scum, either.

Granted I don't think I've ever actually been a scum neighbor except for one time as a replacement in a game I was inheriting the legacy of a scum player (Titus) and just finishing her job. But that's beside the point.

Yume doesn't fake in this way.
I don't fake in this way.

There are times where telling a lie is appropriate.
This isn't one of them.

We are, 100%, masons. It's in our role PM title. There's more to our roles than being masons. For instance, my ability to compulsively hand out the track/watch-immune invention on D1. (That's not all there is to my role. But I see no reason to claim the particulars.) But in the nice blue text. It is laid out. We are explicitly masons.

Btw. I can't give my track/watch immune thing to Yume, and that is in large part because no fucking duh if I had a choice I'd be giving it to the player I know is conftown. But my role PM specifies I cannot hand it to her.

Then fucking explain what attitude

After more people weigh in.

[Sudowoodo]

That's Town!Mastina.

It's nice to finally have some goddamn truth.

Mastina, control your partner.

[Wisdom]

What are your thoughts on the other mason claims and Sudo/Cheeky's matching roles

[mastina]

I remember fake claiming mason a few years back and it didnt even make sense for me to be masons and people believed it. Now it just doesnt work anymore

As the expert in the mason gambit.

There is a time and a place to use the mason gambit.

This isn't it.

There's more to our role than just being masons. But we are, explicitly. Masons. Not "basically masons". Not "well our roles suggest we're both town". Not "we our roles heavily indicate that we're both town". Or anything of the sort. Explicitly. THAT WORD. Masons. Not another title. Not something else. Part of our role titles. Is "mason". And one of our abilities. Is "you are a mason with Nico Robin" (me)/"you are a mason with mastina" (Yume).

[Eddie Cane]

unnecessary but okay

your turn beeboy

[mastina]

what the fuck
these mason claims are bullshit

Eh, probably, but if so it's town bullshit in this case.
Lovebird is hard-town.
bee is pretty damn hard-town.
If they're town without the claim I don't really see any reason to care about the claim. They're either town who aren't masons or town who are masons but either way they aren't scum, so. MOVING ON.

[mastina]

You mean to tell me there are

four

people who can conftown

"What the fuck is this bullshit setup, Cheet? How the fuck was I ever supposed to stand a chance?"

[mastina]

Just leave it be Mastina might have claimed some shit in a hood and i am not delving into that.

I wanted to leave this option open for people. That is, let people believe this could be the case. But no. Explicitly a mason. We're MORE than just masons. So technically speaking you could also say this IS true; there's in a sense "claimed shit in a PT". It's just that said "claimed shit" is something inherent to our role PMs that we thus both knew from the get-go.

[mastina]

{MOMO, Yume, Mastina, Beeboy, Lovebird, Cheeky}
6 out of 13 players. this game is almost solved.

I don't disagree with this, actually.
Cheeky's the iffiest one there but I overall am not opposed to it for a few reasons.

[mastina]

We are a ridiculously bad vote. We have a mutually-confirming role (not Masons) with Cheeky.

This would be #7 which I'm okay with for reasons, too.

[mastina]

We are a ridiculously bad vote. We have a mutually-confirming role (not Masons) with Cheeky.

So there are four masons and two people who confirm each other for a total of six conftown
ok

You know what.
Fuckit.

This is scumplaining.

VOTE: Wisdom.

[mastina]

Dude, stop fishing. I think you're Town, and this isn't a pro-Town fishing expedition.

It is in fact not pro-town, and yet he did so continuously anyway!

Which alignment do you think that's more likely to come from?

[mastina]

Mastina, control your partner.

Considering she's voting the person I want lynched (Wisdom).

She's already under control as far as I'm concerned.

I did post something which can help keep her off of you in our PT tho.

Still.

We win the game if we lynch exclusively within Momrangal/Wisdom/MariaR/Lady Lambdadelta/Kokichi Oma/RedFlavor.

Of them, I am quite good with calling Momrangal town, and about equally sure on LLD being town.

Which gives you Wisdom/MariaR/Kokichi Oma/RedFlavor.

One of those names is lynchbait.

So guess which three I want lynched?

[Sudowoodo]

Fuck it

I've been holding Alisae back regarding Wis for long enough. E's had a wolfread on Wis for a while.

Mastina's case convinces me.

VOTE: Wisdom

Palisade mode engaged, fren.

[RedFlavor]

Maria, what do you think about Wisdom?