Echo Bay Grits SEO [game over]

[Nero Cain]

kill: Sando

[the worst]

l_g is the mvp

[the worst]

If this resolves itself shortly I'll shoot Nero.

[Sando]

ok then, I'll shoot you after the NM shot resolves.

Of you go then big boy, you're signing your own death warrant, shooting a townie, and playing against your win condition, regardless of alignment, but you do you.

You're also an absolute moron, but that's opinion, not a fact, like the previous.

[Sando]

If this resolves itself shortly I'll shoot Nero.

I'm flat out town and Nero is just the stupidest person put on the planet, enjoy the game boys.

[xyzzy]

​​​​​​​​Sando, Echo Bay citizen, has died.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

living players and unused shots

the following players are still alive: the worst, Taly, Ausuka, Chickadee, Iconeum, Momrangal, Davsto, Austerity, Srceenplay, randomidget, Vaxkiller, TheBrie, Lovebird, StefanB, light_ganski, Theta Alpine, Nero Cain, Archwing, wingedcatgirl, Gammagooey, BBmolla

the following players have not used their shot for day 1: the worst, Iconeum, Austerity, randomidget, TheBrie, Archwing, wingedcatgirl

mod notes: Momrangal is V/LA until Monday.

[the worst]

yo Sando sign up to something else I play soon

pedit:

kill: Nero Cain

[Sando]

I'll PM ya when I do

[xyzzy]

​​​​​​​​Nero Cain, Echo Bay citizen, has died.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

living players and unused shots

the following players are still alive: the worst, Taly, Ausuka, Chickadee, Iconeum, Momrangal, Davsto, Austerity, Srceenplay, randomidget, Vaxkiller, TheBrie, Lovebird, StefanB, light_ganski, Theta Alpine, Archwing, wingedcatgirl, Gammagooey, BBmolla

the following players have not used their shot for day 1: Iconeum, Austerity, randomidget, TheBrie, Archwing, wingedcatgirl

mod notes: Momrangal is V/LA until Monday.

[the worst]

Eh I don't feel bad for the shot.

Even outside the PRICKS oath come d2 it's important as fuck for townies to identify each other to avoid playing against wincon.

[the worst]

Srceen needs to die.
I am really intrigued by Mom's BPness but I don't scumread her, all things even.

Those are my strongest feelings right now. :/

[Austerity]

Okay I wanted to do this days ago but I wanted to let him use his shot first.

Clearly he wasn't interested.

Kill: randomidget

[light_ganski]

Why have I come back to Sando dead?

At least NM was scum

[Ausuka]

how is srceen still alive if he's town?

[Taly]

oh my god I have mixed feelings right now

At least we took down

Not_Mafia

... But WTF was that shot on

Sando

?

I haven't seen much of a case on

randomidget

either, but I'm really happy that some people are taking the time to put readslists up.

Ausuka

, I was referring mostly to

Screenplay

when it came to suspicion on you, and I'm tired of WIFOM being placed on protown people this game.

I want a bigger explanation of

Austerity's

shot, why was he scum to you specifically as well?

I don't know what to think about

Mom

, and I'm going to ISO soon.

I don't think

Iconeum's

been onsite but I didn't like that he disappeared when people had notioned a scumread on him.

Also who and where's

Archwing

? ....I'm going to have to look back and see if I even placed him in my readslist...

[xyzzy]

​

living players and unused shots

the following players are still alive: the worst, Taly, Ausuka, Chickadee, Iconeum, Momrangal, Davsto, Austerity, Srceenplay, randomidget, Vaxkiller, TheBrie, Lovebird, StefanB, light_ganski, Theta Alpine, Archwing, wingedcatgirl, Gammagooey, BBmolla

the following players have not used their shot for day 1: Iconeum, randomidget, TheBrie, Archwing, wingedcatgirl

mod notes: Momrangal is V/LA until Monday.

[Taly]

Another BP...

[wingedcatgirl]

A BP who has made three posts all game, and nothing since Thursday.

I don't like this.

[Taly]

Another thing I've noticed is that 519 and 924

All the citizens are noted as

JUST

that,

Echo Bay citizens

.

But

Snarky

was noted as

GRITS

, and

Not_Mafia

was noted as

Munitions Co.

.

I think a 3rd anti-town faction would be overkill and extremely unlikely.

We know by the setup that there are multiple anti-town factions. So it's reasonable to think that there's a

Munitions Co.

and a

GRITS

faction.

I think this gives validity to the 8-10 person scumteam. Assuming a traitor exists for both factions, there's like 3-4 scum directly associated in a faction, and 1 alongside that. Because most balanced Mafia games have scum in roughly 1/4 to 1/5 players, and there's 41 players here, so the range

is

8-10.

So let's do numbers.

There's 20 of us.

GRITS

faction lost their traitor. - There's 3-4 associated goons still alive.

Munitions Co.

faction lost a goon. - There's 2-3 associated goons still alive, alongside an independent scum.

With the lowest number of scum left alive being

6 - 3 Being Associated Together, 2 Being Associated Together, 1 Is Independent

And the highest being

8 - 4 Being Associated Together, 3 Being Associated Together, 1 Is Independent

.

There's 14 to 12 town still left alive.

Also, I'm not saying it's impossible to have more than 1 traitor per faction, but I think 1 traitor per faction is more reasonable and likely in this setup.

Conclusion:

-

I'm going to ISO

Not_Mafia

for anything reminiscent of associatives, other-player stances, or notable interactions.

-

I'm going to evaluate the BPs in this game in depth;

Mom, TW, Screenplay, Randomidget

((I have different reads on them generally, but I want to assess how each of them have played their role separately and see which motives are more likely town-oriented/scum-oriented.))

- We need to defend our townreads and solidify the most right now, guys. We are running a likely risk at town-endgaming in D2.

I'm going to refine my readslist very soon.

[Srceenplay]

how is srceen still alive if he's town?

That’s a shit way to put it.

[StefanB]

Here are the interactions with NM from the game:
This won't find traitors because they don't know who are allign with them:

Who is not scum with Not_Mafia:

The Worst (for 495) (The suprise that NM is in the game seemed real) (585) calling him trouble, 839 is making fun of him, 911 is weaker

Talys 594 also doesn't feel like scum-interaction with him, 851 is very clear he wants not mafia dead

Light_Ganskis 626 calls him out 747 reaction to his shoot, 769 has the heart vs headthing, 891 wants him dead shoots him at 907 (yeah I am an idiot for not checking who shoot NM first)

Moomrangel(weaker) confused random and not mafia

Theta had not_Mafia on her killlist in 789, calles in 800 not_Mafia the first she wants to shoot.

Vaxkiller: 837 has NM as has to die

Ausuka: 922 doesn't come from scum shortly before their partner flipps scum in this game

Who could be scum, with NM

:
The_Brie has a huge list in 835, doesn't meantion NM, 838 defends him indirectly

Chickadee: 846 sees him only as troll

and anyone not mentioned here because there aren't interaction.

[Theta Alpine]

nice i might actually have decent reads for once
there are 5 shots remaining so should we shoot a few more people before ending the day or what

also brie and wingedcatgirl
please save your shots until the end of the day after the other 3 have used their shots or been killed
the two of you have been participating so i trust you 2 to shoot any of the other 3 that misbehave

[Lovebird]

I guess I get shot tomorrow being in everyone null lists

[Lovebird]

I think there's less scum than people think maybe. Game probably balanced around near-random shots.

[Lovebird]

Well I guess that means I will die soon.


@thebrie not mafia is a known troll and plays to troll. He will shoot on a whim regardless of reasons. This kind of game was probably just calling his name for the lols