Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Tchill13]

Lol. Now I'd suspect this being scum theater more so than the other thing.

[Ramcius]

...listen that was YOUR FAULT

what i can tell, i'm scared of guns, so when someone points one at me, i panic

[wilky]

I'm also going to hardclaim miller here and the miller has a flavour name too so i'd like to put the question to dave on what's the flavour name of your miller role.

Until then
VOTE: Davesaz

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm also going to hardclaim miller here and the miller has a flavour name too so i'd like to put the question to dave on what's the flavour name of your miller role.

Until then
VOTE: Davesaz

Looks like things are getting interesting

[Kaede Akamatsu]

In the meantime im gonna OMGUS dunn for voting someone that claimed town.
VOTE: Dunn

[Alchemist21]

I'm also going to hardclaim miller here and the miller has a flavour name too so i'd like to put the question to dave on what's the flavour name of your miller role.

Until then
VOTE: Davesaz

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Impossibear

[Ouroboros]

i saw the first miller claim and was like

there's probably gonna be another, this being a gif game and all

[hebichan]

VOTE: ventriloquist

Iwanna be here for rvs for once

[davesaz]

Oh, is that a thing with GiF games?
I am willing to reveal flavor as requested, but would like to hear opinions on whether it's actually helpful and on whether the other miller claim should be required to do the same (presumably yes on first question implies absolutely yes on 2nd but that's just my opinion).

[verylazy]

Well that's very lazy... Lol

I'm fine with deciding on day play. Last time I shoved a policy lynch done everyone's throat. Wasnt enjoyable. I was scum but I still didn't enjoy creating such a toxic state lol.

tchill, why did you suggest just policy lynching the miller claim in the first place? i don't see why you think that's a good idea.

I already claimed town, do you like voting town? Only scum votes town.

What no! I hate voting town so I'm not going to vote town you see? I will vote only the scum as the good towny I am. Unlike

you

But i claimed town and you're voting me!

But you're voting me and I am also town so we have an issue!

SVS?

why do you think this is SvS?

[verylazy]

personally, i'm willing to believe that we have two town millers.

[wilky]

I would totally be willing to but just to clear things up a little the only thing I want is the name given specifically to the miller part under abilities which should be the same for both of us.

[Alchemist21]

Oh, is that a thing with GiF games?
I am willing to reveal flavor as requested, but would like to hear opinions on whether it's actually helpful and on whether the other miller claim should be required to do the same (presumably yes on first question implies absolutely yes on 2nd but that's just my opinion).

Assuming you're both telling the truth (and according to the mod meta stated by what I'm guessing was RC then it's probable) it would help verify your claim I suppose. The other miller claiming their flavor is necessary as far as either confirming or denying your flavor claim.

The most harmful thing I could see coming of this is that one is actually Town Miller and the other is scum Fakeclaiming and the scum doesn't know the flavor before it's claimed by the actual Miller. Just thinking about the implications for what everyone would have to do to work around it is making my head spin. Basically, if the first to claim gets verified by the second, we can almost assuredly know that the first claim was true, but we have to assume that the second is telling the truth and not just piggybacking off the flavor knowledge. So it would be better that the one we think is more likely to be Town going second, so we can confirm or deny the first. But of course if both millers are telling the truth and think this same way, both would be hesitant to go first because they want to be able to confirm the other and could create a potential stalemate.

That's probably overthinking it but basically I still personally have more reason to believe your claim over Wilky's and would rather Wikly be required to claim flavor and you confirm/deny it.

This is also assuming the Millers can even be verified in such a way and if they can, why did the Mod bother making them Millers if they're so easily confirmed?

[MariaR]

My question is why add 2 millers in the first place if both the flavor on the miller part would conf them they'd become masons within the matter of moments it feels too simple.
Perhaps that's the whole wifom trick gif wanted us to play around?

[MariaR]

I don't think we should've went into full detail on this until both millers claimed flavor but I still somewhat want to play it as is on day play not night play because the 2 miller thing just has a lot of wifom stuff in it that we can't really solve on our own.

[Ouroboros]

@Mod - Do scum have access to day talk?

Ghost

[MariaR]

I would rather wilky claim first myself because his whole way of going at it gives me bad vibes that I can't really explain compared to dave

[Tchill13]

Alchemists post is great.

[hebichan]

The millers should definitely flavor claim.

I have a feeling there's something wonky with one of them at least?

[wilky]

I mean I brought up the flavour thing and even pointed to which part of the PM it is contained within. As scum I wouldn't know that information if everyone wants me to claim first then that's fine by me.

I was also working off the assumption that there would only be 1 miller tbh and was aiming to catch dave out already but going by what's been said 2 millers is something the mod would definitely do so i'm now beginning to believe both me and dave are millers here.

[Ouroboros]

Wilky had an odd reaction to being CCed and I think he might be scum miller given miller as a fakeclaim.

[Ouroboros]

VOTE: Wilky

[verylazy]

@Mod - Do scum have access to day talk?

Ghost

why did you ask this (if it isn't a joke/meme)?

The millers should definitely flavor claim.

I have a feeling there's something wonky with one of them at least?

why do you think this? both of the claims seem entirely plausible to me.

the flavour thing is very likely to end up being useless but there's no reason to avoid doing it, so

[Ouroboros]

why did you ask this (if it isn't a joke/meme)?

Not a joke. Why would think so?

It occurred to me that Wilky and Dave could be scum theatre, but then I realized that that would be stupid.

Ghost