Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Ankamius]

Unvote: verylazy

VOTE: Wikly

[GuyInFreezer]

VC 1.01

Ventriloquist (2):

davesaz, hebichan

Ouroboros (1):

Alchemist21

Nero Cain (1):

Impossibear

Tchill13 (1):

verylazy

Kaede Akamatsu (1):

Dunnstral

MariaR (1):

Ramcius

davesaz (1):

wilky

wilky (5):

Ouroboros, Kaede Akamatsu, ManWithNoName, MariaR, Ankamius

Not Voting:

Wraith, Tchill13, Ventriloquist, Nero Cain, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

With

18

alive,

10

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-20 12:33:41)

[Nero Cain]

I'm not getting the Wilky hate. Like at all. Why in the world would scum fakeclaim miller to 1v1 a useless powerrole. Everyone on that wagon gets -10 town cred.

What does seem possible to me is that Dave fakeclaims miller and then CC'd.

vote:Dave

[Ankamius]

You're just jealous that you're not one of the cool kids.

[Nero Cain]

I've not been a kid for a long long time.

[Wraith]

Oh wait we have

two

Miller claims out the gate?

We're going to need some immediate flavor claims.

[Nero Cain]

^

[Ouroboros]

Wilky/Alchemist/Maria scum maybe

I really do need to meta Alchemist, this opener is probably highly indicative and I'm assuming scum but it might be the opposite

:shrug:

[Tchill13]

OK I've thought pretty hard and long about this.

I don't see how my role could be a positive for town.

I'm hard claiming hider that can hide behind scum.

I'm hoping it's understandable why I would hard claim this day 1.

[Ouroboros]

WRT Maria, not a fan of her voting with me while simultaneously saying something about how she doesn't like my reasons for voting him
like GIF meta was such a small part of it, if it was just GIF meta I'd be 50/50 Davesaz/Wilky, I've been clear that I had a scumread on Wilky since before I brought any meta into it

That said she's scumread me for really illogical stuff before so I'm not going to jump to conclusions, but particularly if Wilky is scum it's something to think about.

[Ouroboros]

OK I've thought pretty hard and long about this.

I don't see how my role could be a positive for town.

I'm hard claiming hider that can hide behind scum.

I'm hoping it's understandable why I would hard claim this day 1.

Uh it's a bad idea to claim this day 1

at least you maybe drag the kill away from me long enough for me to do some damage

[Tchill13]

I don't see how but OK.

[hebichan]

How is hiding behind scum anti town?

[Tchill13]

If a tracker or watcher was to see me I didn't want to cause confusion.

I have absolutely no way of helping town. Only causing confusion.

Which is why I hard claimed.

[Impossibear]

VOTE: Tchill13

For srs business.

I explicitly believe the claim.

[Impossibear]

All impossibear posts so far in this game have been Jingle, btw.

I'll try to sign, but I'm pretty out of practice hydraing.

ETL will probably be posting from her main half the time , because she's bad.

[Tchill13]

This claim is worth insta lynching?

[Alchemist21]

@RC

What did you think was actually scummy about Wilky's reactions?

Claims aside I don't see where he's actually been scummy and I don't know why people are wagoning him beyond the claim.

@Tchill

So you're saying you don't die if you hide behind scum?

[Dunnstral]

Tchills role might interact in weird ways with other unknown roles

I don't object to that being claimed but don't think it's a big deal either way

[Alchemist21]

I'm not getting the Wilky hate. Like at all. Why in the world would scum fakeclaim miller to 1v1 a useless powerrole

It's possible Wilky fakeclaimed Miller to try and appear as a second Miller. It would make sense given the mod meta that 2 millers in a game has been done by this mod before, but on the other hand Wilky did say this was their first large Theme game so I doubt they would have been aware enough of Gif's mod meta to have taken advantage of it unless a scumbuddy told them. But yeah, you're probably right and to think Wilky's scum requires a lot of assumptions, more than are probably reasonable.

[Alchemist21]

I don't think anyone (nor should) is saying that we must lynch in the millers it was mostly "out guess the mod" and wifom based on flavor. I think reading on the play itself is what's more important. I'm willing to join the Wilky wagon but It's not for the miller claiim more so his rxn to the whole thing also I assume in a game like fall out there would be fake claims? so I don't really like RC's vote reason for Wilky.
VOTE: Wilky
Pedit: You fact you unvoted with vote tags and voted with bold triggers me

Same question to you as RC. What did you see that was actually scummy from Wilky?

[Tchill13]

@RC

What did you think was actually scummy about Wilky's reactions?

Claims aside I don't see where he's actually been scummy and I don't know why people are wagoning him beyond the claim.

@Tchill

So you're saying you don't die if you hide behind scum?

correct. So its useless as far as helping town goes from what i can tell.

[Alchemist21]

Oh wait we have

two

Miller claims out the gate?

We're going to need some immediate flavor claims.

^

Which if the two would you rather flavor claim first?

[Alchemist21]

@RC

What did you think was actually scummy about Wilky's reactions?

Claims aside I don't see where he's actually been scummy and I don't know why people are wagoning him beyond the claim.

@Tchill

So you're saying you don't die if you hide behind scum?

correct. So its useless as far as helping town goes from what i can tell.

I see. Probably should have tried to soft a heavier PR to draw the scum NK with that role, but what's done is done.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Ankamius

I know the "do little until later" is kind of your thing, but I would think by now you'd have at least commented on something worthwhile. So got any thoughts to share?