In post 125, MariaR wrote: In post 70, wilky wrote:I mean I brought up the flavour thing and even pointed to which part of the PM it is contained within. As scum I wouldn't know that information if everyone wants me to claim first then that's fine by me.
I was also working off the assumption that there would only be 1 miller tbh and was aiming to catch dave out already but going by what's been said 2 millers is something the mod would definitely do so i'm now beginning to believe both me and dave are millers here.
In post 87, wilky wrote:So we're just assuming that safe claims are given now?
These pinged me as scummy stuff with tmi trying to withhold info. And even without the miller claims I don't really like his tone about the whole miller situation in the first place. Why are you voting Ank? For pressure or because you sr them? I don't think just voting will hurry them up with whatever they're doing.
I can kinda see it with the bolded part there if you see it as having a degree of hesitation to commit to a hard scumread from the counterclaim if he knew he was pushing Town. The more I think about it the more I'm certain that Wilky's play indicates he is indeed a Miller. I suppose the most indicative thing about Wilky here is what motivated him to push Dave for a flavor claim. As a Town Miller, he has every reason to counterclaim Dave and push the flavor claim and try to catch Dave in a lie while assuming there's only 1 Miller while allowing for the possibility of a 2nd Miller. As a scum Miller, he could either just have never claimed Miller or counterclaimed Dave and pushed for the verification to confirm himself as Miller. Regarding the scum possibility, on one hand it does seem to not make sense that he gave Dave the chance to prove he was a 2nd Miller if he didn't even think it was possible before the mod meta was brought up, but on the other hand actually claiming Miller instead of just keeping quiet even if he actually is a scum Miller is opening himself up to the possibility of getting policy lynched or vigged - 2 possibilities that I have to believe his scumbuddies would have warned him about as a scum Miller.
So to me it seems Wilky had reason to not claim Miller if he's scum and every reason to claim if he's Town. While scum can and do fakeclaim Miller (and would by extension see it reasonable for a scum Miller to claim Miller), the odds just point to it being more likely that Town claims over scum. I suppose getting his claim verified could potentially keep the PL/vig away from him if that's something he considered before the claim. Even then it seems like there would need to be a great deal of forethought and calculated risks if he's scum claiming this.
The possiblities keep wavering back and forth in my mind but they keep favoring the Town Wilky scenario more than the scum Wilky one.
The Ank vote's about a 80/20 split between pressure and a scumread.
In post 127, Ankamius wrote: In post 124, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: Ankamius
I know the "do little until later" is kind of your thing, but I would think by now you'd have at least commented on something worthwhile. So got any thoughts to share?
Yes, I don't think the miller claim conversation is going to get anywhere.
But really, I'm waiting on something specific before I start analyzing things. I want to test something.
Was the Wilky vote part of what you're testing?
