Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Ouroboros]

If you want to be able to stand a chance of lynching me as scum you first have to establish that you can townread me as town.

If you are town now would be a good time to start.

[MariaR]

Nero I am doing none of the things you're saying you're just making stuff up at this point. I'll sum it up in a nice pretty bow for you.

I know what you said about hiders being objectively weak I said that in the first place. I think the

agenda

and the

motive

you are pushing is scummy. You saying "oh one of them has to be fake"

your words not mine

to me was really scummy. The argument of "why can't I be town/scum who thinks (put statement here)" is wifom because any statement made in the history of mafia can be made by town or scum you just need to look at the actions behind it and come to your own answer of "do you think that is more likely to come from town or scum?" You said that hider is a weak role along with the 2 millers so you think scum has to be fake claiming and then started to vote in said 3. Could town think this? Of course they could but can scum be trying to line up ml's? Yes yes they can and that's the line I am going down rn

The logic does not seem well thought out it feels like you're scum just trying to find an easy ml and when I questioned you on this you did the following:
Shaded my join date and used it as an excuse
Put words in my mouth when I clearly did not say the statement you've said
Have openly said false statements about me.

Instead of:

Trying to figure out my alignment
Explaining your read to the rest of the crowd

guess the real question is why can't I, as town, think there's a fake claimer in 3 neg utility roles? I guess the other question is why do you think all 3 are town and they aren't fakeclaiming.

I never said the 2nd part see

this

is putting words into someones mouth just because I am voting you because of something I dislike does not mean I throw my other logic on wilky out the window

Alright if that is all I'm done this convo and have fruit to eat.
Pedit: Wait I heard Mislynch and RC I like where this is GOING also RC how confident do you feel your new style is that you can read me you...know how I feel given recent games with you

[Nero Cain]

ok, talk to me about your maria read then.

[Ouroboros]

I don't know her alignment yet but as soon as I do you will know.

[Ouroboros]

I'm trying not to force reads. Over the last few months most of the things I was wrong about we're when my first read was fuck if I know then I over thought it and tried to wrench a read from nothing and ended up convinced in wrong reads that I had to sell even to myself.

Let me play my way please.

[Ouroboros]

Oh and again if you think she's scum that already confirms me as town unless over the next three days I claim a guilty and she gets lynched. Then I can actually be scum

[Nero Cain]

yeah, I agree.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Am I the only person here who's SRing Wilky not because of what they claimed but for the way they did it?

[Ouroboros]

No I'm pretty sure everyone agreed it was the way they claimed not the claim itself. Can I persuade you to help me run up Ramcius?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also Nero, how can I be null, when I claimed town in my first post?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

No I'm pretty sure everyone agreed it was the way they claimed not the claim itself. Can I persuade you to help me run up Ramcius?

I spectated that Bastard game GIF modded, it seems to me that Ramcius is the type of player that plays in a way that rubs ppl the wrong way and ends up getting himself lynched, ill give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

[Ouroboros]

Uhhh. I was in that game. Besides that game I have an 100% record reading him and I did my homework here. Pls trusterino.

[Ouroboros]

I'll figure out if he's town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

RC im pretty sure I can trust your gut, I know very well how accurate you can be most of the time.
It's not an issue about trusting you, it's an issue of this feels fishy all over it.

[Ouroboros]

What feels fishy? You think I'm scum pushing him?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What feels fishy? You think I'm scum pushing him?

Not you.
The votes on him.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If he's town, your push on him feels like the easiest thing for scum to latch onto, considering what i saw on that game.

[Ouroboros]

Please be specific on which votes you're referring to?

Sure, that's true, but given all that like we got Willy to l2 almost effortlessly and this Ramcius push has gotten far less traction.

I also feel like this is less a case of rubbing people wrong and more very specific scummy things that he did.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It's hard to put a finger on it right now, you should know already that feelings are hard to explain with words.

[Ouroboros]

I mean you're entitled to those feelings but I intend to ram (no pun intended) this through if you don't give me something more substantial

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well im not exactly getting in your way.
But im not exactly supporting you either, you're free to pursue this if it's what you want and if ramcius flips scum then i can shut my mouth about it and learn.

[Ouroboros]

You're town right?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You're town right?

Yeah

[hebichan]

Keade, you feel different from my last game with you. You seem a lot more excusey here.

Idk.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I am playing different yes, but idk if i would call that "excusey".