Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[the worst]

Taly is one of the most obnoxious people ive seen lmao what the fuck

It's like that kid who tells the teacher you came in 30 seconds late or rattles on you for shoving Jimmy

Are you the fuck whos been picking on Jimmy

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

AGAIN this is why draft reads on D1 are for BAKAS щ(ಥДಥщ)

[Eddie Cane]

I mean how much of a dick move would it be if I tried to reveal lol

If people tell me who they're an alt of and ask, I keep it secret. If they don't I'm open with my guesses. That's my mindset.

[Eddie Cane]

Ignoring reads we never lynch Iconeum, Worst, or Lalendra d1. Correct. I townread the first two regardless.

[the worst]

LOOK

Taly, Eddie-kun, can we STOP this (ꐦ ಠ皿ಠ ) ???

BOTH of you are TOWN and GETTING ON EACHOTHERS nerves is NOT going to do ANYTHING productive (ಠ_ლ)

Taly, I am HALF-WAY done with my case on Ircher so you will be able to see my points then ^_^

Eddie, just give SHORT reasonings for your reads, it's STUPID and I AGREE but TRIFILING over it is helping NO ONE

OKAY? ╭( ･ㅂ･)و

I am much more likely to read some yaoi scumteam fanfiction than I am to read a dumb case

[the worst]

Caught dementia catching up

Someone get me up to speed with very small words in short sentences?

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

okay SO Taly,

My scumread of IRCHER primarily comes from HOW he has interacted with Math-sensei, to ME it feels like he’s trying to HIDE his scumread BUT it is presently latent within his posts!

We KNOW he is self-conscious about how he is read, BUT even KNOWING that it is BLATANT that there is something AMISS

Let us take a GANDER

But I get the feeling you are avoiding scumhunting because you can. Like, you were very wordy the first page or 2, but then you kinda vanished only to pop in to post things that are not very helpful in advancing the game state. Is it truly as unfair of me as has been suggested to see you as doing much more setup speccing than scumhunting? (Null)

This is an OBJECTIVELY incorrect assessment of Math-sensei’s ISO at this point

39 is a STRONG town interaction with me, and EVEN if you do NOT agree with the reads in 14 it shows that he’s ACTIVELY sorting the game, saying he’s not SCUMHUNTING is disingenuous when he has 2 SCUMHUNTING posts and basically 2 SETUP related posts, the ratio here is VISIBLY about equal

And even then, Math-sensei has CONTINUALLY shown he’s thinking CRITICALLY about the gamestate, though this look is RETROGRADED, Math-sensei is the FIRST to start thinking about deepwolves

Saying he’s emphasizing setup spec over scumhunting is a DIFFICULT read to justify, and once in his CATCH UP Math-sensei’s scumhunting becomes more blatant, Ircher DOES townread him

I'm not sure I saw 5 reads, especially not 5 substantial reads. You wanted to PL Beefster for his claim though I would suspect you scumread him to some degree there. I feel like you have a pretty confident scumread currently on Janitor. You had a townread on Lovebird.... but I don't think that one counts. I guess you have more substantial townread on SIMYK than your early draft-related read... And that is all that I can think of so far, and that was not 5 reads I just named. That said, I like the points you bring up against Janitor in the rest of your post. (Neutral leaning town)
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This is also a good post. Now you are starting to present some good reads... (Null leaning town)

But WHERE does that get us in his readlist?

Mathdino (0%) - Most of the reads presented have been based on the draft which is fine I guess... For now... Not sure what to make of the push for Beefster lynch as a Policy Lynch versus just a regular lynch--I'm not opposed to it, but why make it a policy lynch versus a scum lynch? I'm admittedly probably just biased here. First 100 posts of the game still seem to coincide with the beliefs that I have expressed regarding this game. 118 is a good post and perhaps the best post (in my opinion) that you've made so far. Now I'm completely mixed here..

He’s now NULLREADING Math-sensei? Even AFTER seeing him scumhunt more strongly?

I would BELIEVE that the natural way to read someone is to see LATER, MORE SCUMHUNTING posts as MORE alignment indicative than EARLY posts discussing the setup, NOT viceversa. Keeping him at NULL after seeing GENUINE content from him does NOT sit well with me

3) Mathdino and I are never going to see eye-to-eye this game, and I honestly don't think it is worth my time trying to get some read on them.

I think it's VERY clear that this did NOT happen, town!IRCHER would be AWARE of this personality conflict in the SAME WAY. BUT ircher CONTINUES to talk about MATHDINO as we see later on! （・□・；）

It is CLEAR this was said only to ASSUAGE complaints of him being TOO self-conscious about math-sensei (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

Setup spec is not intrinsicly scummy; however, doing it exclusively IS for multiple reasons including being able to easily “look town” as scum (scum can do a very good job, more so generally than townies with setup spec) and while a few things we’ve done with setup spec increases our chances of winning (I’m primarily referring to MathDino’s argument that scum would not choose the same draft number), the majority of it at this stage are simply conjectures that we really cannot act on at this stage of the game; I.e.: the emphasis should be more on reads and scumhunting and less on breaking the setup and finding associative.

I think this is Ircher's GENUINE opinion on setup spec and I DO express SOME agreement with it, HOWEVER there is a very clear COGNITIVE DISSONANCE in how he's approaching this. Mathdino is VERY CLEARLY using SET-UP SPEC to SUPPLEMENT his reads rather than USING IT as a CRUTCH. IF Ircher were to genuinely believe then then he'd be LOOKING for the scumhunting in Mathdino's iso, which is MORE than abundant!

3. 636 by Mathdino: Quotes a post from Lalendra in another game --> Okay, but how does that counter The Worst case which is basically showing that every post Lalendra has made this game not only doesn't take a side, but also have almost zero value to anyone. (Actually, I find this post a bit on the suspicious side esp. when combined with 621; it feels like an active attempt to derail a wagon without compelling reason (at least imo) why.)

I CANNOT compute with this post, if you actually READ the post Math-sensei is referring to it is a RESPONSE to Ausuka - Lalendra even SAID in her signature that she's USUALLY lynchbait, and the post Math-sensei linked and the one Ausuka-chan scumread seem very SIMILAR in personality profile. So OBVIOUSLY math-sensei should be HESITANT to push this wagon, whether he's PARTNERED with Lalendra or NOT! (*•̀ᴗ•́*)و ̑̑

Oh really? Then why are you not pushing those scumreads. (I mean, if you are talking about me, you have said you scumread me all, but you aren't really pushing your scumread of me in a way that is leading anywhere.) The Janitor wagon has existed all game, and it has basically gone... nowhere. And I don't see you pushing any other scumreads.

Do I even HAVE to explain why this is a SHITTAKE read （￣へ￣）

so YA that's my POINTS (ﾉ^ヮ^)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧

[Mathdino]

If you think about it this game is basically stalling on SIMYK posting the Ircher case so she can finally get to writing the fanfic

Should we wagon simyk for bamboozling

Edit: shit never mind then

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Caught dementia catching up

Someone get me up to speed with very small words in short sentences?

We're STILL lynching Ircher, Taly and Eddie-kun need to MAKE UP STILL, I think Ausuka is MORE town than lovebird BUT everyone disagrees (but EITHER way the vig is PROBABLY on them to ensure we hit a vt if we MISVIG (*•̀ᴗ•́*)و ̑̑ ), and I just FINALLY finished my Ircher case ^_^

pedit: （ ಠωಠ）

[the worst]

I am happy on this wagon
SHEEP SIMYK TO CERTAIN OBLIVION/FUN/VICTORY

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Ircher's posts were SO hard to go through and every time I TRIED I just got distracted ((/)_(\))

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

I am happy on this wagon
SHEEP SIMYK TO CERTAIN OBLIVION/FUN/VICTORY

(ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

[the worst]

Lovebird is gettin shady I'm probably w you SIMYK. Last few posts feel intentionally slippery and hard to read into, for Lovebird.

[Mathdino]

I'm going to unvote off the lynch wagon if I don't get some yaoi before eod

[Eddie Cane]

Taly and Eddie-kun need to MAKE UP STILL

He has

anger

issues apparently but I'm

happy

[the worst]

Taly and Eddie still town right?

pedit: this is a very strange side of the t rex we all know

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

I'm going to unvote off the lynch wagon if I don't get some yaoi before eod

I dont think 18+ content is allowed and I'm NOT comfortable writing that about real people anyway....

MAYBE I will write something more ACTIONY like TAFALS or a HIGHSCHOOL AU (ﾉ^ヮ^)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧

[Mathdino]

Sounds good! Hs AU where the scumteam is the rich kids clique pls

[the worst]

I'm NOT comfortable writing that about real people anyway....

I consent with or without knowing what I'm consenting to

[the worst]

New fav d1 derailment ever tbh

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

this is a very strange side of the t rex we all know

I'm NOT comfortable writing that about real people anyway....

I consent with or without knowing what I'm consenting to

(✿˘艸˘✿)

Sounds good! Hs AU where the scumteam is the rich kids clique pls

GOOD idea! ╭(♡･ㅂ･)و ̑̑

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Well MAYBE not the rich kids clique... I'll THINK about it more when I have TIME

[Mathdino]

I just love your ffn fics and anything like that about the scum pt this game (ideally discussing the logic behind the draft as well) would be very convincing

[Lovebird]

Lovebird is gettin shady I'm probably w you SIMYK. Last few posts feel intentionally slippery and hard to read into, for Lovebird.

Explain?

[Lovebird]

Not explainging things isn't my scum style. Everyone just always townreads big walls and explanations anyways.