Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Mathdino]

- As many have mentioned there was the Draynth L-2 non claim thing - OK yeah, might be skum. but in context to this point... and again surprised at the lack of assertion on this concept - obv they would of thought about that. In your minds, let me put it this way, " if they are willing to kill off of the IC to create chaos, why would they not be willing to also choose to kill off of the next best chaotic option?"
The reason I am OK with a Draynth lynch is because skum both would lynch him if he was town and wouldn't lynch him if he was skum. However, to skum read him without considering the WIFOM alternative is (imo) super skummy. the fact his D2 wagon started so quickly is at least slightly suspicious as well.

All in all this all seems like a plan from the get go and the answer is going to end up being Track/Cop/IC or [tracker, cop], IC, Vig. Most likely the first as it would explain the mindset behind shooting off of the IC (combined with the one kill).

does this come from a partner with draynth though

goddamn :/

maybe lynching draynth is the right call after all? at least it rules out the ultra paranoia team of pintu/NSG

i don't wanna die

[Draynth]

At this point pintu is confscum to me so my vote isn't moving off him either way.

Also NSG could still be town even with pintu being scum since the scumteam know who is town.
Would a scum fakeclaiming cop really fake a town result on a partner rather than on an actual townie to gain claim credit?

[Mathdino]

no stop it you're always getting lynched before pintu

you know that, you have no defence, you haven't been in thread at all and your reads have been awful given that you were literally townreading both pintu and scioness

find a partner for pintu

[Mathdino]

you've also voted only for town this entire game until literally now

you have 0 credibility

find a partner for pintu and vote them

i will never vote pintu over you today lol

[Draynth]

Scumteam is pintu + Math + Brassherald, the game is secretly bastard and there are 4 scum + a fake IC.

Game. Solved.

[Draynth]

I wasn't saying NSG wasn't most likely his partner, I was thinking out loud about the

possibility

of him actually being town.
No idea who next most likely would be

[Mathdino]

i'm so not amused

VOTE: Draynth

[Mathdino]

i wasn't even addressing your NSG comment

i'm saying you should not be voting pintu today because that's never happening

[Draynth]

i'm saying you should not be voting pintu today

Why wouldn't I vote the confscum? I'm well aware that he's less likely to be town in your opinion but hey, that's life

[Mathdino]

what is the purpose of a vote if it doesn't lead to an actual lynch

are you planning on just being useless all day and voteparking him until you get lynched?

or are you actually going to do an ounce of analysis?

[pinturicchio]

:lol" Did the scumteam really thought that they could push me over skitter? That's sad.

@Dino 9 players, 7 town and 2 scum. Three conf!town (you, NSG and me), one obv!town (ruru), and the rest:
Sunshine
AP
Uglyduck
Oxy
and Draynth

Draynth is confscum; assuming he's lynched today, D4 starts with 6 town and 1 scum, two conf!town and ruru between those 6. Pretty solid for town.

If we don't lynch Draynth, however, and we mislynch today, tomorrow Is 5v2, but with you and me alive and NSG dead. Draynth would still be conf!scum so it's solid for town too.

The list above is the order I would like to lynch, but in reality I have to decide who I want to lynch the most between UD and Oxy. Was Oxy pushing Draynth yesterday? Can't remember. Do you know who wasn't pushing Draynth? Me sorry for over complicating things about him

[Mathdino]

Go read scioness iso
She's not scum with oxy smh

[northsidegal]

Do we have forced victory with lynching draynth today and me pintu math ruru all being unambiguous town?

[Mathdino]

towncase ruru for me

we need one more townie to get to forced victory

[Oxy]

literally 0% chance that ruru is scum with exactly draynth + scioness.

I will disbelieve my own town role pm before I vote there.

[Oxy]

BTW, it's not for a reason ya'll know.

I'm pretty sure I have (my first!) solid meta tell on ruru

[Mathdino]

well as long as the gamethrow's on you and not me

we can go ahead and do

UglyDuck --> AP --> Draynth then, yeah?

the question today is really solely whether it's worth keeping me/pintu alive

NSG certainly gets killed tonight if draynth is alive, so that actually forces scum to kill in our lynchpool the following night

Edit: nice!

[northsidegal]

I'm pretty sure everyone in 1859 was meta townreading ruru

[Mathdino]

SCIONESS SAJJ WASN'T!!!

CHECKMATE, NORTHSCUMGAL!

[northsidegal]

[ruru]

I think we should lynch a VT claim today because reasons

[ruru]

The list above is the order I would like to lynch, but in reality I have to decide who I want to lynch the most between UD and Oxy. Was Oxy pushing Draynth yesterday? Can't remember. Do you know who wasn't pushing Draynth? Me sorry for over complicating things about him

Oxy was pushing Draynth yesterday yeah

Perhaps more interestingly Draynth had that weird vote on Oxy d1. I didn't find examples in Draynth's meta of him bussing for no reason

Also, 2566 could have been coordinated with NM, but I think it's somewhat less likely than Oxy just being town

[ruru]

VOTE: UglyDuck

[ruru]

I didn't find examples in Draynth's meta of him bussing for no reason

For example he didn't even scumread this and it became that

[ruru]

I guess the selection of scum games I read was chosen by Draynth. There's a possibility he's actively defying his meta of those particular games

Which would be awfully tryhard for someone who isn't trying as either alignment