Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: verylazy

[ManWithNoName]

VOTE: Realmen only jungle

I'd rather have a wagon here.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also, i dont see how it's an issue that i claimed IC.

[hebichan]

eh, its just more valuable on later days when we can have a player we can say is definitely town.

Early on its not as useful just because of the size of the playerlist.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well anyhow i didnt crack under any pressure, i was planning on claiming early to begin with, it's impossible for me to feel pressure if I know im gonna be confirmed town to begin with.

[Dunnstral]

What are you contributing though?

I called you out for your bad vote, for one

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also I'm kinda starting to lean town on wilky, hence my vote change.

[hebichan]

What are you contributing though?

I called you out for your bad vote, for one

You called out the votes in general.

You're only calling me out specifically because I'm engaging with you.

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

VOTE: Realmen only jungle

I'd rather have a wagon here.

wait... my homie... what happened to this?!!?!

at least i'm funny unlike ramcius :^)

I'll give you that one.

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

Why is Real Men on your kill it with fire list?

Because all posts are useless trolly garbage and I think it's a wasted slot. It's totally unreadable and just adds noise to the thread. Would much prefer someone I can actually at least attempt to figure out via ISO or engagement. As it stands, I don't want to talk to that person at all, ever, and would be happy if they disappeared entirely.

ETL

man, I'm so sad to hear that! I'm sorry this meme alt slot isn't dedicated to you, but to RC :'(

you see, I thought of making a meme alt specially for ETL, but, the name "ETL" was taken... by someone... probably Not ETL ...





also: real talk, RC is cool and I know he can take it but I'm not ETL would actually be very receptive, heheh

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

its okay, you can figure me out with engagement, i'm easy to read! you'll figure out i'm town... eventually...

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

Real Talk section: ETL, if there's any way for me to make you feel more comfortable in this game, or my jokes funnier so that you can appreciate it, please let me know. I'm very sad that I failed to do my one single job of making people like you happy. Please, share with me how I can better serve you.





















Of course, if you're just scum trying to pull a fast policy mislynch on a meme alt that isn't even scum then rule the game because you're known to do that then go suck a chode :^)

[Wraith]

Daily catch-up

Am I the only person here who's SRing Wilky not because of what they claimed but for the way they did it?

I agree in that I find it strange that he wanted dave to nameclaim but when I asked the same of him before dave he specifically withheld his own name.

However I do find the possibility of a double Miller extremely possible considering this theme.

Please be specific on which votes you're referring to?

Sure, that's true, but given all that like we got Willy to l2 almost effortlessly and this Ramcius push has gotten far less traction.

I also feel like this is less a case of rubbing people wrong and more very specific scummy things that he did.

Feeling the same

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I tentatively think Maria vs Nero is TvT. More confident in a townread on Maria.

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Keep in mind that if we assume there have been no fakeclaims and that there are 5 scum in this game, then there is only a pool of 10 players that have strong positive PRs.

[Wraith]

Townreads

Tchill
Davesaz
Alchemist21
Hebichan
Our slot obvobv

Lazy townreads

Dunnstral

well i TR this slot because i agree with most of these.

ew

[Wraith]

VOTE: Kaede

Either she's just trolling, or she's very carefully posting as much as she can which is NAI. Show, don't tell.

Show, don't tell.

Sure, will do

Oh GIF's not around, now that comment ended up being kinda anti climatic.
I guess I'll have to prove my townyness later.

Hate this exchange from Kaede

[Ankamius]

I'm caught up. Let me merge all my thoughts together and I'll have my results out shortly.

[Wraith]

EBWOP: Yes I'm aware that was an obvious IC softclaim.

Ok, since ppl dont seem to get the memo ill just hard claim IC.
There, now you can stop worrying about me.

Not only do I hate the claim, as it was not only poorly-timed and well after we were generally agreed that no one else should claim, I still echo ManWithNoName's original sentiment that Kaede is

still

all sound and fury rather than substance.

But I suppose I'll find out soon. If she is genuinely an IC this should have waited until a much better moment to drop.

[Wraith]

announcement

Kaede Akamatsu is mod-confirmed Commonwealth aligned.

Ugh, just a terrible move.

[Ankamius]

Kaede Akamatsu

MariaR
Ouroboros

Wraith
Nero Cain
hebichan
Impossibear (EspeciallyTheLies + Jingle)

Dunnstral
davesaz

REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
Ventriloquist

verylazy
Wilky

Alchemist21
Tchill12
Ramcius

ManWithNoName

UNVOTE: Ventriloquist
VOTE: ManWithNoName

[Ankamius]

MariaR + Ouroboros I have a hard time seeing as scum this game.

The {Wraith, Nero Cain, hebichan, Impossibear} set are close enough together in read strength that they might as well be right on top of each other.

Dunnstral + davesaz are slots that I either can't really read or have conflicting thoughts on, but I see as more likely town than not.

REALMEN + Ventriloquist are the null line.

verylazy + Wilky are slots I've had stronger scumreads on, but they've improved over time.

Everything below those two slots I can easily see being scum this game.

[Ankamius]

Also, ETL, just as a quick note because this is directly relevant to me: how do you generally get your reads? I remember you being a fairly strong player but I want to get an idea as to why our general thoughts have been polar opposites this game.

I still lean townish on the overall analysis, but I want to get this sorted out sooner rather than later since it would do a lot to prevent me from gaining paranoia on your slot later in the game.

[Wraith]

Okay trying to keep up with my thoughts at the moment.

Assuming no fakeclaims, with the IC confirmation that leaves a 9-player pool for PRs. Since we have an unknown but presumably significant number of VTs in that pool as well, this means either a very weak town or at least one fakeclaim among the Millers and Tchill.

Right now I'm comfortable with wagons on wilky, REALMEN, Tchill, and Ankamius

About to review the latter two.

Spoiler: Ankamius Quotes of Note

Ok, tomorrow I'm going to get myself caught up in this game.

I promise.

Also, wheeeeeeeeeee

UNVOTE: wilky
VOTE: verylazy

This looks like one of those games where I'll read through and realize I have reads on two slots.

BTW I'm catching up as we speak

I'll have something a bit later on

UNVOTE: verylazy
VOTE: Ventriloquist

I'm still catching up, but I'm far enough to have a strong enough townread on Ouroboros that I'm comfortable sheeping them for right now.

<snip>

UNVOTE: Ventriloquist
VOTE: ManWithNoName

Yeah, kill this with fire.

Spoiler: TChill Quotes of Note

Ooh a Miller claim right out of the gates.

I vote to policy it.

Lol. Now I'd suspect this being scum theater more so than the other thing.

OK I've thought pretty hard and long about this.

I don't see how my role could be a positive for town.

I'm hard claiming hider that can hide behind scum.

I'm hoping it's understandable why I would hard claim this day 1.

If a tracker or watcher was to see me I didn't want to cause confusion.

I have absolutely no way of helping town. Only causing confusion.

Which is why I hard claimed.

Townreads

Tchill
Davesaz
Alchemist21
Hebichan
Our slot obvobv

Lazy townreads

Dunnstral

well i TR this slot because i agree with most of these.

This too

Pretty split on this. VOTE: TChill because Ankamius made something resembling an effort just now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well faking a hider that doesnt die when hiding on scum can be done by being a commuter.
There's also something MariaR mentioned earlier that i wanted to comment on but:

My question is why add 2 millers in the first place if both the flavor on the miller part would conf them they'd become masons within the matter of moments it feels too simple.
Perhaps that's the whole wifom trick gif wanted us to play around?

Considering on top of that im an IC, this left me wondering...

One of the reasons I stayed on wilky, but now he sounds town too.... what a headache.

[Ouroboros]

Alright so
Me and Anony are going to try to get on the same page
I have very good reasons for wanting to lynch Ventriloquist, I'd appreciate more support there since there's value in me being able to get the wagon while still keeping my cards close to my chest.
If we can't come to an agreement on that we'll find someone else to lynch I guess.

[Ankamius]

RC

All I really want to know in light of that is how much weight you put behind the points on him you've already stated.

I might be willing to go back to sheeping, but I want to be sure that it's worth not gunning for a slot that I think is highly likely to flip scum.