Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[pinturicchio]

Brief readslist

Spoiler: AP (Town)

I still think AP is town, but his intent on getting a strong PR suspect (by his own admission) to claim D1 is frustrating for me

Spoiler: TheWorst (Town)

TW is probably town, read progression seems legitimate and doesn't seem to be trying to push any specific lynches but lynch the best candidate.

Spoiler: Sunshine13 (Town)

I really like his point about people pushing a no information lynch, it's a good observation in my opinion.

Spoiler: Uglyduck (Town)

Despite him trying to lynch me I think he's probably town.
The only thing I'm concerned about is how easily he tried to jump on NSG with MD (Possible scum partners?) but he said he was reading backwards which if true would make sense.

Spoiler: NSG (Town)

Probably town, seems genuinely frustrated with Math's arguments against her case(s). Doesn't feel like forced anger from scum.

Spoiler: Oxy (Scum)

He's Scum.
He's Scum.
He's Scum.
He's Scum.
He's Scum.
Did you really think there'd be anything else here?

Spoiler: Skitter30 (Town)

Skitter is obvtown to me at this point

Spoiler: pinturicchio (Town)

Everything he brings up feels like it's from a town trying to solve the game POV rather than scum trying to push a narrative POV

Spoiler: Scioness Sajj (Town)

Might seem weird but suggesting her own lynch seems townie to me as it's a kind of "Vt's are expendable, lynch me for info" kinda view. I don't necessarily agree with it but I also can't see scum suggesting it so *shrug*

Spoiler: ofrhz (Slight Scum lean)

He's felt super opportunistic for most of the game tbh

I took out Dino and ruru since they're not relevant to the point I want to make. Look at every townread Draynth gave and look at Scioness' read, see what lying do unconsciously? "I still think AP is town", "TW is probably town", "NSG probably town"... But about Scioness: "might seem weird but..."; his read on me and Sunshine are the most worked out reads maybe because we were pushing the wrong people, so it's worded to appeal us. Now, the other read that looks similar to his Scioness' read is Ugly's: "Despite him trying to lynch me..."; he worked with conditionals on both cases.

Also, if you look at Draynth's ISO, you'll see that he was townreading Oxy to the point of having him alone on the top of his tierlist, and had Ugly as one of his scumreads (he explicitly said that his scumreads were ofrhz, Mohab and UD after making his first readlist, where UD was null and never explained how his read on him evolved). When Draynth started getting some pressure and his counterwagon was Oxy, he started scumreading Oxy.

So conclusion: it's probably UD, yeah, I've been scumreading him since his very first posts independently and Draynth's read on him looks like partner material.

I don't want to vote now tho, I already lolhammered two of the three scums, don't want to mess up the tradition.

[ruru]

If I'm looking at that post from that perspective, I feel like AP is a bit implicated too

[Oxy]

agreed - he is tomorrow's lynch if ud flips town

[pinturicchio]

agreed - he is tomorrow's lynch if ud flips town

You're in no position to say that you'll have to kill me tonight instead of NSG if you don't want to be pushed to death

[ruru]

Does anyone feel like looking up more Draynth scumgames

[Oxy]

LOL do you really think you had 2 scum (draynth + me) at L-2 on d1?

and then I killed the worst because why?

and I fight to lynch within the cc's (Specifically to lynch my partner draynth) because why?

gtfo, dude. You haven't even thought about reevaluating my slot in about 1900 posts

[ruru]

^ This kinda

Like I don't think scum!Oxy is completely impossible but signs point to the opposite

If Draynth's partner is Oxy and he's going to be afk/low effort all game it makes no sense to bus Oxy d1, Draynth should be the one getting bussed

Draynth started sring Oxy when there was a wagon on Oxy, so it's not like Draynth was just trying to distance himself from Oxy given that Draynth expected to flip red soon

[ruru]

And Oxy's wagon outcome was pretty unpredictable at the time that Draynth changed his reads. It's not like Oxy was guaranteed to flip either

[ruru]

My reasons for sring Oxy, if he is town, amount to a weak d1 tunnel and too many smileys

Those are not good reasons compared to Draynth's scum motivations

[northsidegal]

LOL do you really think you had 2 scum (draynth + me) at L-2 on d1?

It's not impossible, open 714 is an example.

Not that I necessarily scumread you, just that this isn't valid.

[Sunshine13]

That entire post of his isn’t valid as a defense, frankly.

I’m alright with a UD lynch, not sure if it’s wise to waste the time we have atm though, just in case.

[Oxy]

Alive:
AP
Sunshine13
UglyDuck

Mohab500

confirmed town
Oxy

pinturicchio

confirmed town

ruru

town

7 players, 6 town, 1 scum

Town has three lynches, and 4 unconfirmed {AP, Sunshine13, UglyDuck, Oxy}

Ya'll aren't going to mess up 3 times in a row, and the game probably ends when we lynch UD, anyway.

So let's go let's go let's go. If he's town, you can lynch me tomorrow and deal with {AP,Sunshine,Ruru} final 3, idc

[pinturicchio]

@Oxy, you do know that the last time I voted you was on D1, right? You're taking too seriously my push on you, at this point I'm just messing with you 'cause it's funny

[Oxy]

if true good troll

[AP]

VOTE: UD

ruru is my next suspect, and precisely bc of her 2626. It feels like she's lining up lynches (if UD flips town somehow).

In what world do I make 2605 as scum with Draynth when the VC was:

UD (2): ruru, Oxy
Pintu (1): Draynth
Draynth (1): Mathdino

Both ruru and Oxy are very scummy (the latter for his response in 2627) but there's only 1 scum left, so one of the two is a beard if not both.

[Oxy]

okay that's L-1

[ruru]

I'm not sure if you would be my preferred lynch tomorrow, I was only commenting on pin's logic

It would be between you and Sunshine and I kinda think you've towntold more (2605 is whatever, Draynth was getting lynched one day or another anyway, but my biggest reason for townreading you right now is that I don't think scum hints at being vig on d1 and then proposes specifically that vig/cop come out in a way that's pretty +EV for town on d2. Also I feel like the JK claim being wasted on Draynth points to less experienced scum?)

Can you explain to me why Oxy is scum in this game, aside from having an opinion on lynch order?

[pinturicchio]

VOTE: UglyDuck

[ruru]

Oh, I misread, it's his post after that you don't like

I still don't see why it makes him scum

[brassherald]

Votecount 4.1

UglyDuck(4)

~ ruru(8), Oxy(8), AP(1), pinturicchio(5)

-- HAMMER


Not Voting (3): Sunshine13(1), northsidegal(1), UglyDuck(0)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-19 07:00:00)

MOD REMINDERS

Hey, look another fast lynch

[brassherald]

End of Day 4 and Town win

The rest of the bar had certainly turned on UglyDuck as they forced him to drink the poisoned cup.

"If we can't have both ducks, we can have neither!"

screams one of the patrons, though which it was will never be known, because all eyes were on UglyDuck as he drained the cup. Falling over, a vial of red liquid rolls to the feet of the bartender who picks it up and reads,

"Property of UglyDuck,

Mafia Goon

. I guess that takes care of that."

says the bartender as he walks behind the counter again.

The doors slam open as two cops and the man with the clipboard come charging in, the clipboard man

"That's him, arrest him! He's been poisoning people, he even told me when I came here this morning to perform the health inspection. Man is crazy!"

The two cops look at UglyDuck's body and nod, putting handcuffs on the bartender and leading him out. The bartender, to his credit, just smiles as he is being lead out the door.

"I hear you all kept coming back."

one of the officers says as he comes over to the 6 remaining patrons.

"That was really dumb, You know it's illegal to make people drink poison, right? If you didn't get rid of all the mafia for us, I'd be taking you all in for murder, but next time, just don't come back to the bar if you think you might die there."

He turns away and his partner asks

"We're just letting them go, then, brass?"

"Yeah, assembler. We're letting them go."

As they walk away, the people remaining are pretty sure they hear him say something under his breath that sounds distinctly like "Bore-ons". And just like that, they all leave.

TOWN

wins.

Congratulations to Mathdino (IC), skitter30 (Tracker), pinturicchio (1-shot cop), Sunshine13, AP, Oxy, Northsidegal/Mohab500, ofrhz, ruru, and the worst.

[Oxy]

GG

[ruru]

brassherald: Thanks for hosting!

[brassherald]

Fuck it, releasing the PTs, no one said anything I need to censor, possibly other than me and my foul mouth.

PTs to come.

[Oxy]

brassherald: Thanks for hosting!