Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.
You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo
In post 2059, MOMOMEN wrote:also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.
VOTE: Momrangal
I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn
FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.
In post 2334, MOMOMEN wrote:the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.
this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.
VOTE: Sudo
In post 113, MOMOMEN wrote:Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.
VOTE: Sudowoodo
In post 989, MOMOMEN wrote:UNVOTE:
I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.
In post 1086, MOMOMEN wrote:Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.
VOTE: Kokichi
Maria, stop.
In post 1223, MOMOMEN wrote:
that was fun.
In post 1222, beeboy wrote:inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.
lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.
also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read.
VOTE: MariaR
In post 1356, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Momrangel
this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.
In post 2053, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Wis
I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes
I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because
we
sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.
the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?
Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.
In post 2599, MOMOMEN wrote:I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game
And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.
In post 2534, MOMOMEN wrote:From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.
sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao
me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read
a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?
friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me
friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye
i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.
sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)
monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL
We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.
Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.
last week:
me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime
today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.
Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.
What happened to all that confidence?
what confidence?
It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.
sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.
Except
it doesn't
. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.
If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.
Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.
