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Post Post #2800 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:26 pm

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Is anyone around to talk?
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Post Post #2801 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 2798, Momrangal wrote:Mmm...Ok.

I intend to check between bee/love pair.

Mastina/nico seem far more beleiveable. They claimed first and i didnt see any kind of pushback from the bee or lovebird.

Also, youre essentially saying that im either scum or my role has no utility
I am saying if you’re scum it has utility period to find masons.
If you’re town it has utility it has the same utility.

What I am saying is if you’re town then one of the mason pairs is scum.

Otherwise mass claim wrecks the setup because there is 13 players.

5 confirmed town breaks the setup. Still not home but 5/13 confirmed town leaves 8 outside that.

3 or 4 scum means
Lynch in unconfirmed then 7/13 unconfirmed. Night kill confirmed 4/13
Rinse wash repeat 6,3
5,2
4,1
3,0

By the time scum killed all of the confirmed town assuming one KPN alive

There would be three alive.

Ergo it’s why random sampling is so powerful.
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Post Post #2802 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 2800, Lovebird wrote:Is anyone around to talk?
Hi I am here but shopping
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Post Post #2803 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:31 pm

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This is why I am completely confused.

If there are scum masons they claim and coast.

There 100% cannot be 4 masons and a mason cop all town the setup does not work.
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Post Post #2804 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:31 pm

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In post 2801, OnTheMark wrote:What I am saying is if you’re town then one of the mason pairs is scum.
Masons can't be scum?
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Post Post #2805 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:33 pm

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Ergo the one I am suspicious of is the Mastina claim not Beeboy/lovebird.

Pedit

The definition of mason is share same alignment. The must be town in normal games not theme.
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Post Post #2806 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:38 pm

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Mod could scum be masons?
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Post Post #2807 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:41 pm

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Lovebird who do you townread and scumread outside of the mason claims? Doesn’t have to be a whole list just a couple.
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Post Post #2808 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:46 pm

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Gotta drive home but if someone could double check my math that would be awesome sauce.
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Post Post #2809 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:48 pm

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In post 2798, Momrangal wrote:Mmm...Ok.

I intend to check between bee/love pair.

Mastina/nico seem far more beleiveable. They claimed first and i didnt see any kind of pushback from the bee or lovebird.

Also, youre essentially saying that im either scum or my role has no utility
Also no one ever pushes back on a mason claim. I have done that as both alignments and it was suicide.

Driving now back in an hour or so.
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Post Post #2810 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:48 pm

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Town is beeboy, cheeky, you, think momo is town too. Sudo scum, think mom's claim is more likely scum one, still think masrina and nico faking being masons but nico is really towny.
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Post Post #2811 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:50 pm

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Anyone faking masons has a prod dodge
(48 hours)

(expired on 2018-05-12 21:50:21)


To rescind without it factoring heavily into my reads.

Anyone rescinding after that point is a scum claim.
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Post Post #2812 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:51 pm

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In post 2809, OnTheMark wrote:Driving now back in an hour or so.
Don't use phone and drive
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Post Post #2813 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:51 pm

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:)
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Post Post #2814 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:20 pm

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I never do.

Still wanting those reads lovebird.
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Post Post #2815 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:22 pm

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P.s. not driving traffic was amazing
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Post Post #2816 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:22 pm

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I just said them.
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Post Post #2817 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:22 pm

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In post 2816, Lovebird wrote:I just said them.
Fuck my phone lolz sorry
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Post Post #2818 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:23 pm

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In post 2811, OnTheMark wrote:Anyone faking masons has a prod dodge
(48 hours)

(expired on 2018-05-12 21:50:21)


To rescind without it factoring heavily into my reads.

Anyone rescinding after that point is a scum claim.
This post is kind of a scumclaim.

I gave a pass to the scumplaining earlier today because I’m frustrated with the situation, but this looks a LOT like signaling to scumbuddies to abort their gambit and an effort to help them de-escalate.
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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Post Post #2819 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:36 pm

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In post 2818, Pine wrote:
In post 2811, OnTheMark wrote:Anyone faking masons has a prod dodge
(48 hours)

(expired on 2018-05-12 21:50:21)


To rescind without it factoring heavily into my reads.

Anyone rescinding after that point is a scum claim.
This post is kind of a scumclaim.

I gave a pass to the scumplaining earlier today because I’m frustrated with the situation, but this looks a LOT like signaling to scumbuddies to abort their gambit and an effort to help them de-escalate.
Good luck with that.

I work off of truths. I also understand faking masons is a thing.

If we genuinely have four masons then hoo fucking Ray we win.

However I sincerely doubt this as I explained.

If I was scum with buddies I would just let them do their fucking gambit dude.

If I get mislynched and there are four masons then we win
If I get mislynched and there are not four masons I was right

There is literally no downside to me asking and then if you scumread the people rescinding you do.

I just want a firm basis in reality to start from. Without starting with truth I go askew.
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Post Post #2820 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:48 pm

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Me and Lovebird are still masons.
Mastina and Nicorobin are still gambiting yw.
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Post Post #2821 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:54 pm

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So significant events are
Mason claims
Mastina claim early
morangel claim

What other events would you consider significant?

Yes it’s a subjective question. Answer as you feel is right.
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Post Post #2822 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:54 pm

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And your reads similar to Lovebird in style would be amazing.
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Post Post #2823 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:56 pm

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I am still trying to decide is Mason cop was a red herring role or scum genuinely claiming there role.
I am leaning towards the latter.

pedit: I low key haven't read most of this game.
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Post Post #2824 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:57 pm

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In post 2823, beeboy wrote:I am still trying to decide is Mason cop was a red herring role or scum genuinely claiming there role.
I am leaning towards the latter.

pedit: I low key haven't read most of this game.
Even better!

Then if what you have read
right now
name some town and scumreads.

Yes I understand it’s incomplete and blah blah blah qualifiers here.
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