Partition Mafia Scum Topic

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zMuffinMan - Mafia 1-shot Bodysnatcher
havingfitz - Mafia Goon
Kokichi Oma - Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Role PMs

Hello, and welcome to Partition Mafia, zMuffinMan!
You are a

Mafia 1-shot Bodysnatcher

.
Once, during the day, you may bold in thread: "

Switch with PLAYER

" where PLAYER is a player in a different group from yourself. If you do so, you will swap groups with that player. When you use your ability, the votecount will reset, and the deadline will be extended to 48 hours from the next vote count if it is less than that.
Each night, you and your partners must partition the town into three groups. Each group must have at least one member; apart from this, you may partition players however you choose.
You have a 1-shot factional kill. You may not use this kill on night 0, and you may not use it if it would cause you to immediately win (i.e., if there is exactly one more town player alive than there are mafia players alive). If you use the kill, the killed player should not be listed in any groups for the day.
You can discuss the game at all times with your teammates here.
You win when there are at least as many mafia players alive as there are town players alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
Confirm by sending me a PM stating your role and alignment.

Hello, and welcome to Partition Mafia, havingfitz!
You are a

Mafia Goon

.
Each night, you and your partners must partition the town into three groups. Each group must have at least one member; apart from this, you may partition players however you choose.
You have a 1-shot factional kill. You may not use this kill on night 0, and you may not use it if it would cause you to immediately win (i.e., if there is exactly one more town player alive than there are mafia players alive). If you use the kill, the killed player should not be listed in any groups for the day.
You can discuss the game at all times with your teammates here.
You win when there are at least as many mafia players alive as there are town players alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
Confirm by sending me a PM stating your role and alignment.

Hello, and welcome to Partition Mafia, Kokichi Oma!
You are a

Mafia Goon

.
Each night, you and your partners must partition the town into three groups. Each group must have at least one member; apart from this, you may partition players however you choose.
You have a 1-shot factional kill. You may not use this kill on night 0, and you may not use it if it would cause you to immediately win (i.e., if there is exactly one more town player alive than there are mafia players alive). If you use the kill, the killed player should not be listed in any groups for the day.
You can discuss the game at all times with your teammates here.
You win when there are at least as many mafia players alive as there are town players alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
Confirm by sending me a PM stating your role and alignment.

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It's night 0!

You have 48 hours to decide what the groups for day 1 will be.

[Kokichi Oma]

Hi. Any ideas on groups

[havingfitz]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

[havingfitz]

Have there been other games this theme? Might be worth a review.

Hello team.

[zMuffinMan]

busy atm

my first ideas for scum in this setup were a 643 or 733 split with all scum in the 4 or one of the 3s but it heavily depends on how likely it is you think you can avoid a lynch plus how much risk you want to take

[zMuffinMan]

on second thought that's not so good an idea though because town probably has at least a way to determine how many scum are in a given group and that could backfire massively

anyway will think about this later. bbl

[zMuffinMan]

safest option might just be to do a 1-1-1 split because if town does have some sort of sensor role and uses it D1 we'd be kind of fucked if we gamble (otoh, it could work brilliantly if town is without a sensor role but i'm not sure it's worth the risk)

i thought my role was pretty cool

then i actually read what my role is and saw how it resets the votecount and now i think it's not so cool

the lesson learnt here, of course, is that reading is uncool

oh well

i'm currently considering strongly hinting at having a neutral-but-kinda-positive-but-potentially-negative-so-i-dunno-what-it-actually-is role D1. i think i'd probably do that if i were town with this role. depends on whether i feel like i wanna pretend i'm vanilla or not i suppose

[havingfitz]

Zmuff....what makes you think there might be a sensor type role (something I've never played with btw)?

Can you explain your role?

Can he paste it in here mod?

I hadn't thought about not partitioning everyone (ex. 1-1-1). That merits some thought.

I'll lpok again this morning...but last night I couldn't find a previous partition game. If anyone knows of one please link it.

[zMuffinMan]

my role is pasted in here (check the spoiler in OP)

sensor role is just a guess - town has some power (probably) and it's related to the mechanic (probably) so sensor (or some variation of it) makes sense (you might even say it's a sensible guess) (i'm sensing i'm running out of puns now)

[zMuffinMan]

just try to throw out guesses for roles that make sense (this one wasn't intentional but i'm making no effort to alter my

corny[/size] hilarious punning)

sensor
a town mirror of my role
someone who can decide what group they're in regardless of what scum picks
some sort of governing role or something i guess is possible (or at least saving someone in a particular group)
double-voter

maybe i'll think of some more later if i can be bothered

[zMuffinMan]

CAN'T EVEN GET MY BBCODE TAGS RIGHT

PS: sorry if my sensational sense of humour offends your sensibilities btw

[zMuffinMan]

purple is a really ugly colour for private topics btw

why haven't they fixed that yet or how do i change it?

green wasn't much better but damn, black-text-on-purple is bad and the whole colour scheme makes me wish i were born without eyes

after some testing, i've decided this will be my new colour, unless someone has a better suggestion

seems fine in preview at least

[zMuffinMan]

maybe i'll just stick with black actually... that doesn't look as good as i previously thought it would

[zMuffinMan]

i guess for now i'll just write out a preliminary idea for partitioning and if anyone has any better suggestions than we go with that instead...

1:
dram
DV
pine
kokichi

2:
wisdom
sircakez
...

i literally no know one else in this player list so split the rest randomly, but 3+hf in group 2 and 4+me in group 3, i guess

if you're wondering why i get the bigger group, it's because

i need to compensate for something

i'm clearly the boss of this small mafioso unit... though i would prefer a less perverted-sounding role...

@implosion: would you mind changing my role name to something cooler like "1-shot destroyer of hopes and dreams"?

i feel this adequately describes what my role does while giving it a bit more oomph

[zMuffinMan]

there's no reason the two of you can't also petition to change your role names too, i guess

i feel goon is a bit too... vanilla

it's so 2017

let's go with something like the following?

1:
dram
DV
kokichi
realmen

2:
wisdom
sircakez
havingfitz
pine

3:
riku
bujaber
eddie
northside
muffin

(pending changes... potentially multiple times...)

any better ideas are welcome, though!

i'm not sold on a 1-1-1 split but it's just the safest bet until we have a better picture of what town power looks like (of course, we could always mix up the groups a bit - e.g. put me in a group of 4 with players who are easily lynched (someone is gonna need to help me out on who this would be in this player list, i'm oblivious to who most of these guys are!) and at some point D1 i switch groups and have my group get lynched or something? there's even potential gambits where i switch with one of you)

[havingfitz]

Zmuff...if you want to be a self annointed boss feel free as long as I don't have a contradictory opinion to anything you say.

I liked your new color better than black...I hate these purple PTs. If there was a way to default to a different color in this theme I would...just not too interested in changing color each time I post.

I misinterpreted the 1-1-1 as suggesting we could just place 1 individual in each partition. You were referring to 1-1-1 only in regards to our scum dispersement though...yes? So we do have to sort everyone within one partition or the other (I should read the game OP again).

What was your thought process on the groupings you suggested?

Are there players who as town are going to be considered too valuable (or popular) to sacrifice a group they are in? If so...we might be able to have 2 scum in their group. NSG? Eddie? Wisdom?

Are there players who regardless of their alignment tend to be popular lynches or come across as scummy (ex: Kokichi according to Wisdom)?
DeasVail? Pine? idfk.

Zmuff...that role. The fact you have to announce it to the game when you use it and the vote resets kind of sucks. Would be much nicer if the vote did not change. Kind of a get out of jail free card. If you think you can sell it as a town aligned role it might be worth claiming. idk....

iirc Eddie and NSG have a tendency to scum read me. I could be wrong...but that seems to be my recollection so being in a group with them could help me.

Who is REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE?

[havingfitz]

Can he paste it in here mod?

Duh. Please disregard.

[zMuffinMan]

What was your thought process on the groupings you suggested?

i was using an incredibly complex system...

"put the few people i know with a bunch of people i don't know"

[zMuffinMan]

i realistically don't have any preferences for groups

just put DV in with a bunch of lynchbait

it would feel pretty good to be able to mislynch him D1

and then hold it over him at an ausmeet

[zMuffinMan]

... of course, if he manages to get my group lynched D1 then uh... hopefully he doesn't read the scum PT

[havingfitz]

What are you thinking wrt your role?

[zMuffinMan]

optimally, i think the path to victory is something like the following (left hand side is total numbers, right-hand side is groups)

10:3 - 5:4:

4

(1-1-1 split means 1 scum dead)
7:2 - 3:3:

3

(1-1-0 split means we preferably lynch an all-town group but worst case scenario is another scum dead)
either 4:2 or 5:1 - 2:2:2 (either 1-0-0 or 1-1-0 split, if 2 scum alive here we'd win on a mislynch of the town group)
if we haven't won after D3, then we use the NK here and go into the final day 2:1 with 1:1:1 split of groups (obviously 1-0-0 split)

the other option is gambling on weird splits throwing off the town - but i think that could be considered after D1

there's also the possibility that my switch can be utilised to prevent a scum lynch on a given day or potentially as a way of gaining some town credit (i.e. i swap one of you, we lynch your group, i potentially look better... BUT this backfires if people see the obvious so i might just not use my role - sorry mod!)

[zMuffinMan]

i can't really see a way that using my role actually

helps

scum

at best, it could serve as a distraction

so the only way i can really think to utilise it for any semblance of town credit is to claim it (or hint at it strongly) early on, eventually use it, prove what it does and then point out "AHA! NO SANE MOD WOULD GIVE THIS SHIT A ROLE TO A SCUM PLAYER!" and everyone will nod sagely at how true that statement is

[zMuffinMan]

i suppose at 3:3:3 there are potential ways to use it (but i would look bad on the following day because of it)

for example, put myself in a group with 2 lynchbait players, go "yeah, fuck this shit, scum obviously want me dead today", switch for another generally agreed scum player (or gambit here and switch with one of you) and then lynch that group

but eh, i'll think about it when it gets to that point

for now, i'm almost certainly not going to use it D1