Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[Kokichi Oma]

@mod is this game considered bastard. Also would you consider scum masons bastard

[Pine]

Scum Masons involve the mod confirming something to be true which is a lie

That is the definition of bastard

[Pine]

Game Name:

Scummer in this Game UPick

Flavor/Mechanics:

At some point before the game fills, you must give me a list of three other players who are signed up for the game. I will then divvy out people [repeats are allowed at my own discretion] and design a setup based around the picks. If there are hydrae, you may pick individual heads. I might do some dumb flavour too, we'll see after I've got the setup done!

Your Experience:

Paint Mafia Mania! : https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=73434

Current Modding Commitments:

None

Reviewed By:

Jingle will help me review the setup when it's ready!

Back-Up or Co-Mod:

I'll make sure I have someone if something comes up.

Number of Players:

13

Hydrae:

Ya

Restrictions:

Nah

Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics?

cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game

Nope.

[Pine]

Scum Masons are not a thing

Mom's masoncop is semiprovable, which makes the Masons semiprovable

VOTE: OntheMark

This is the best choice for today

[CheekyTeeky]

Is it sad that I auto-TRD math because he doesn't like replacing into scummy slots? I also think trying to get masons lynched is too ballsy for scum? Why would there be a mason cop with only one pair of masons?

Has the red replacement said anything yet?

[OnTheMark]

1) Scum masons are not bastard similar to scum without nightchat, Unexpected yes. A lie, no.
2) It’s logically incorrect. I like taking “scummy slots” and then obvTowning or causing people to examine the game
3) I am not trying to “get the masons lynched” I am trying to understand the setup and how Jingle would ever approve this. If I was “trying to get the masons lynched” I would be voting them and encouraging the same:
What I AM encouraging is a setup analysis.
Furthermore since I said I could ensure momrangal’s results being accurate I am getting pushed.

Coincidence?

It’s 1 am sleep time for Mark

[CheekyTeeky]

Furthermore since I said I could ensure momrangal’s results being accurate I am getting pushed.

Coincidence?

You're not getting pushed by people claiming masons though so I don't understand your logic here?

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: OnTheMark

[Cheetory6]

VOTECOUNT 1.25

Lady LambdaDelta [1]

- Kokichi Oma

Not_Mafia [2]

- Lady LambdaDelta, beeboy

Pine [1]

- Lovebird

OnTheMark [5]

- NicoRobin, mastina, Momrangal, Pine, Not_Mafia

Momrangal [1]

- MariaR

Kokichi Oma [1]

- MOMOMEN

Not Voting [2]:

CheekyTeeky, OnTheMark

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have (expired on 2018-05-16 18:00:00) to do so.

[Cheetory6]

@mod is this game considered bastard. Also would you consider scum masons bastard

The game is not bastard, but I cannot confirm or deny the inner mechanics of any roles that may or may not exist in the game thread.
If a player has a question that pertains to their role they may ask about it privately and I will answer as best I can.

[NicoRobin]

I did ask him about it, and he said that we are confirmed town to each other. Don't know about the other 'pairs', but we are not scum masons.

[Momrangal]

VOTE: notmafia

[OnTheMark]

Furthermore since I said I could ensure momrangal’s results being accurate I am getting pushed.

Coincidence?

You're not getting pushed by people claiming masons though so I don't understand your logic here?

I am getting pushed. Look at the wagon formed on me for merely pointing out 5 confirmed town is broken and saying I can guarantee the results.

4 is not much better.

9/13 4/4
8,3
7,2
6,1
5,0

So then scum would have only one kill they could do that is not a mason before lylo.

This also assumes the “masons” claim. There is no way there are 4 masons.

[MOMOMEN]

@mod is this game considered bastard. Also would you consider scum masons bastard

The game is not bastard, but I cannot confirm or deny the inner mechanics of any roles that may or may not exist in the game thread.
If a player has a question that pertains to their role they may ask about it privately and I will answer as best I can.

you should be able to answer whether or not the role "mason" being scum aligned would be bastard my guy

[MOMOMEN]

the answer is yes, by the way

[OnTheMark]

Scum Masons are not a thing

Mom's masoncop is semiprovable, which makes the Masons semiprovable

VOTE: OntheMark

This is the best choice for today

No shit. Hence why I am letting momrangal prove it and I will ensure true results.

Pedit wtf? masons is just people of same alignment.

[MOMOMEN]

Anyone faking masons has a prod dodge
(48 hours)

(expired on 2018-05-12 21:50:21)


To rescind without it factoring heavily into my reads.

Anyone rescinding after that point is a scum claim.

I agree with pine that I didn't overly like this post.
I am not sure if it's scummy and I don't agree with Pine's reasoning but like the post is bad.

I just can't decide if it's wolfy or not.

I don't think the post is really AI, I agree with the sentiment. You might think you're being pro town by softclaiming around but you're not.

[MOMOMEN]

Scum Masons are not a thing

Mom's masoncop is semiprovable, which makes the Masons semiprovable

VOTE: OntheMark

This is the best choice for today

No shit. Hence why I am letting momrangal prove it and I will ensure true results.

Pedit wtf? masons is just people of same alignment.

And does not counter my point that scum claiming masons with each other is a losing play.

[OnTheMark]

1) it isn’t
2) where is your argument again?

[OnTheMark]

I am gonna go randomly *scritch* a post now

Okay done and have to head to work and therapy and dnd today.

[OnTheMark]

Oh and then I will switch and scritch another post tomorrow as the scritch marks fade away.

[OnTheMark]

Furthermore a “mason” is defined in two ways
1) You share an alignment with someone.
2) You have a PT you can day or night chat or both in (otherwise best friends not masons)

Ergo it is quite possible a “scum” mason exists.

Especially depending upon the legalese of the given cop/mason role PMs.

[OnTheMark]

This is 100% within Jingle’s setup spec.

I was a godfather without name.

As scum I was able to use people pre suppositions to assume things that 100% were not true.

Ghostlin’s figured it out but by then we convinced the others to vote.

And a clean sweep without a true chat is hard AF.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=73980

There is scum in the mason claims as this is a Jingle setup and momorangel is town.

[Pine]

Mason is inherently Town.

By definition.

"Scum masons" who share a PT are just called Mafia

[OnTheMark]

Mason is inherently Town.

By definition.

"Scum masons" who share a PT are just called Mafia

And if they share an additional PT outside of the mafia PT scum masons.