Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

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VOTECOUNT 1.27

Lady LambdaDelta [1]

- Kokichi Oma

Not_Mafia [2]

- Lady LambdaDelta, Momrangal

OnTheMark [6]

- NicoRobin, mastina, Pine, Not_Mafia, CheekyTeeky, MOMOMEN

mastina [1]

- MariaR

Momrangal [2]

- beeboy, Lovebird

Not Voting [1]:

OnTheMark

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have (expired on 2018-05-16 18:00:00) to do so.

[beeboy]

I feel like the way OTM is approaching this push is the way they'd be doing it as town.
I think there are easier pushes to make here as well.

Wisdom himself was also pretty reasonably playing in a way I'd expect him to as town.

I just have 0 idea as to how both these players would approach the game as scum I don't really want to shove this read down anyone's throat the way I'd do if you start pushing my other reads.

[NicoRobin]

If I had to guess myself I'd say the slot was town.
I just don't like pulling triggers like that without really putting the thought into the read or having some kind of tell to back it up.

and answer my question while you're at it: what's the point of townreading me if you cannot even trust me enough here?

[beeboy]

Honestly if I just read a few scum games and tried to review meta I'd be able to make up my mind.
But ehh idk I think we have enough good options that I don't particularly mind.

{Mom, Not Mafia, LLD} are all pretty solid choices and going option OTM just feels meh to me.
I don't think Mastina can kill me if she is scum so I am fine leaving her alive and not lynching her either, it's a trade off I am willing to make.
+ I just see my flip getting her killed anyway?

[OnTheMark]

My last will is out and so I trust the person with it to push tomorrow.

There be scum in the mason claims.

5 confirmed town / IC by claim is insurmountable for scum

The more Mastina and beeboy dodge the more right I am.

[beeboy]

If I had to guess myself I'd say the slot was town.
I just don't like pulling triggers like that without really putting the thought into the read or having some kind of tell to back it up.

and answer my question while you're at it: what's the point of townreading me if you cannot even trust me enough here?

Which one?
Because I literally know lovebird is town and she thinks that OTM is town so I can't really put my trust into both of you at the same time.

[OnTheMark]

Honestly if I just read a few scum games and tried to review meta I'd be able to make up my mind.
But ehh idk I think we have enough good options that I don't particularly mind.

{Mom, Not Mafia, LLD} are all pretty solid choices and going option OTM just feels meh to me.
I don't think Mastina can kill me if she is scum so I am fine leaving her alive and not lynching her either, it's a trade off I am willing to make.
+ I just see my flip getting her killed anyway?

LLD is town 100%

[Kokichi Oma]

These 2 wagons suck. Who wants to help me start a new one?

[NicoRobin]

I feel like the way OTM is approaching this push is the way they'd be doing it as town.

I think there are easier pushes to make here as well.

Wisdom himself was also pretty reasonably playing in a way I'd expect him to as town.

I just have 0 idea as to how both these players would approach the game as scum I don't really want to shove this read down anyone's throat the way I'd do if you start pushing my other reads.

Guess what the town had to say about scum before I caught them?

That's right, they said that scum had easier targets to push on.

So just hammer.

[OnTheMark]

These 2 wagons suck. Who wants to help me start a new one?

Driving home now laters

LLD is town let her drive tomorrow if I am mislynched

Same with monrangel

Fucking figure out the mason problem tomorrow is my last wish since we are lynching me and I am the one person who can ensure no fuckery on momrangel

[NicoRobin]

You'd better hammer before I wake up, otherwise I will use that.

[NicoRobin]

I didn't want to reveal this yet, but.....

@beeboy

If you just hammer, I will lay your fears of mastina being scum once and for all tomorrow. I have the ability to confirm us as masons in public, and no scum may interfere with this ability. I told this much to her, and she can vouch.

This is reason enough to trust me and hammer, is it not.

[mastina]

I am l-1 well I am out all day.
I still reiterate I can make momragel ‘s checks not messed with.
I still maintain that I am the counter to Mastina spreading ninja to buddies.
Just remember if I am hammered there is a lying pair or scum masons.
I gotta go. See you this weekend if I am not hammered.

And yet in spite of being at L-1 and knowing you are going away...

...You don't claim.

This is scum Mathblade.

[mastina]

{Mom, Not Mafia, LLD}

Are all town.

[mastina]

These 2 wagons suck. Who wants to help me start a new one?

If I started a new one it'd be on you.

[OnTheMark]

I am l-1 well I am out all day.
I still reiterate I can make momragel ‘s checks not messed with.
I still maintain that I am the counter to Mastina spreading ninja to buddies.
Just remember if I am hammered there is a lying pair or scum masons.
I gotta go. See you this weekend if I am not hammered.

And yet in spite of being at L-1 and knowing you are going away...

...You don't claim.

This is scum Mathblade.

I already did lolz.

I claimed neg utility and what I can do. I just got to the store yet again

I know I cannot win a war of words with you

I would rather just die and have people call me dumb when I die than try

I have much more important things irl to focus on.

I legit caught you and you mislynching me proves it

Why the hell would I claim what neg mod just to have the wagon on me survived when I already proved my town flip confirms you as scum?

Think my neg mod can stop you from ninja’ing someone or ensure momrangel’s results

There is only one

[NicoRobin]

I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.

[Momrangal]

V/LA to the 25th

[OnTheMark]

I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.

You can’t lol

You seriously can’t

Because you’re scum banking on people not assuming scum masons are a thing.

Otherwise you’d push the other pair

It is a 100% fact there cannot be 4 town masons this game

Yet you push me instead of the other pair

I don’t have time to read your plan I just know it’s flawed

[mastina]

I already did lolz.

No, you didn't.

You didn't name your role name. Mine is "Town (details I am deliberately blanking) Mason".
You didn't give a description of what that role entails.

You claimed negative utility, but while you've softed, you've not outright committed to saying what precisely that entails.
You have been deliberately avoiding details and Wisdom did the same fucking thing.

[NicoRobin]

I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.

You can’t lol

You seriously can’t

Because you’re scum banking on people not assuming scum masons are a thing.

Otherwise you’d push the other pair

It is a 100% fact there cannot be 4 town masons this game

Yet you push me instead of the other pair

I don’t have time to read your plan I just know it’s flawed

Yes, I can, and I will. Good luck with that.

[MOMOMEN]

i think it was cheeky but idrc who, someone said mara was playing their town game

that's bullshit

mara is a player good at faking their town game as scum and she's very self aware

[NicoRobin]

I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.

You can’t lol

You seriously can’t

Because you’re scum banking on people not assuming scum masons are a thing.

Otherwise you’d push the other pair

It is a 100% fact there cannot be 4 town masons this game

Yet you push me instead of the other pair

I don’t have time to read your plan I just know it’s flawed

Meet Mini 1936, a game with four active confirmables + one semi-confirmable. Again, nice try.

[MOMOMEN]

VOTE: Beeboy

[MOMOMEN]

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