yeah, about that...
i've been thinking a bit about how everyone in group 2 minus pine needs to go on suicide watch and while mulling it over a bit (since i've got nothing better to do while i
stare at a screen and pretend to do work all day
wait for queries to run and things to compile), i decided it's not all that likely there's 2 scum in that group
briefly gonna run through the ideas i was thinking over:
i don't really know the history of the players in your group, but from what i've read of the players so far, apart from
maybe
you, i don't see them as all that capable of thinking they can pull off a self-vote reverse psychology sort of move - as in, based on how capable they seem, i have a hard time seeing any combination of riku+buj, riku+kok or buj+kok thinking it's a good idea to try and out-WIFOM town (though if they
were
doing it, i think they'd have given some indication they're willing to move elsewhere, but so far they're all staying steadfast on the "WE MUST DIE!" course (and neither buj nor riku seem to have even flinched at a REAL MAN joining their wagon)) - maybe i'm severely underestimating their capabilities, but eh, from what i've read so far, they don't seem like the types of players who would come up with that and think it's a winning strategy (or at least if they did, i'd expect to see it played a bit differently)
i don't really think you're doing it either (though i don't feel strongly enough about this to say it with certainty). i think if you were doing it, you'd probably be less likely to draw attention to the fact that no one seems to want to push your group (status quo of no one discussing it i think would be better for you in the long run since it's more likely to stop being a thing that way). i also think in order for there to be 2+ scum in that group of 5, you'd need to be the ring leader essentially (if you have some reason for thinking otherwise, i'm all ears... or eyes, i guess)
i think the more likely scenario than 2+ scum in your group is 1 (or possibly 0 but i think more likely 1)
if there's 1, they probably set this group up predicting that whatever particular chemistry you guys have would make it more likely their group was lynched (seems to be working for the people in your group, at least!) and are doing so at the cost of a sacrifice (i think you're by far the least likely to be doing it in this case)
kind of the same logic applies if there's 0 in the group (though in this case, probably the reason there's so little discussion about it is scum are waiting for your group to implode on itself without needing to do much themselves)
here's a question i'm interested in: would pine have been aware of the dynamics of your group?
i'm undecided about what to make of pine and the fact he seems to be largely ignoring the silent pleas for help that are coming from your group of clearly unhealthy people - it reads a bit like someone who doesn't want to rock the boat and is fine with how things are playing out, which is why i want to know how likely it is he'd have known this is how things would play out. the fact that pine is playing like he is, though, is why i'm not really including him in all the 2-scum speculation
the tl;dr of all this is that i think it's more likely scum are fine with what group 2 is doing because they're hoping it goes through without them having much of a hand in it, not because there's 2 scum in it. i'm currently thinking it's most likely a 1-1-1 split with an outside chance of a 2-1-0 split
all that said, independent of the whole voting stuff, i have a mild town read on buj-dude and a weaker town read on kok-guy and riku
the group i feel worst about is group 1
NSG is probably town in that group, but i don't have any sort of town read on the rest of them. i'm pretty sure DV hates scum (maybe this has changed or i'm remembering something incorrectly) so it wouldn't surprise me if his inactivity is a result of that, i haven't liked what little hf has posted and eddie hasn't done anything that makes me feel one way or another about him but he has an evil-sounding name
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