Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[NicoRobin]

Also, why do you care so much whether the game is unwinnable for scum or not? If you are truly town, you should be happy about the automatic town win.....

I care because Jingle doesn’t do automatic town wins.
I care because I never allow myself to get complacent.

If the game is unwinnable for scum with the current set of assumptions/setup spec it has to be wrong.
There is never such a thing as an automatic town win.

Answer me this: why can’t mastina target you?

Surely if you’re both masons you must have discussed this.

It's in her role PM that she can't....

That would make her disloyal.

Which means she is lying about being town.
Or she is lying about townreading monomen and is intentionally giving a ninja to a scumread
Which would make her a mason ninja granting cop.

So you can explain or people will go with what is most likely which is she is lying.

Because you’re clearly not ascetic.

No, that would make her unable to give it to me specifically, which doesn't mean she is unable to give it to the rest of the town.....

And since you and she talked then you should be able to claim the modifier or part that forces her to not be able to.

But wait you can’t do you keep up the lie.

What if there is no modifier, but rather a clause that prevents her from giving it to me?

Then that “clause” would be a part of the role name and thus a “modifier”

It’s like saying you’re a one shot roleblocker but don’t claim the modifier

Surely you should be able to claim the clause.

Is it “people not named Nico only” “people without a PT only?” “People with out birds in their names or avatars?”

This isn’t about “grilling” if you’re confirmed town to each other surely you have claimed to each other.

Not neccessarily. It could be a part of role text as opposed to role name.....

[mastina]

So I've been prodded.
Between depression + me being really fucking sick, I'm not really sure if I can play today. (And yes, those factors existed over the weekend, too, just combined also with it being the weekend which I am

always

V/LA over and also it being Mother's Day weekend so obviously I wasn't going to be around especially not when also celebrating my sister's birthday.)

I'll try later today, but no promises. I've just been feeling like hell recently.

[CheekyTeeky]

So I've been prodded.
Between depression + me being really fucking sick, I'm not really sure if I can play today. (And yes, those factors existed over the weekend, too, just combined also with it being the weekend which I am

always

V/LA over and also it being Mother's Day weekend so obviously I wasn't going to be around especially not when also celebrating my sister's birthday.)

I'll try later today, but no promises. I've just been feeling like hell recently.

Feel better.

[CheekyTeeky]

I think OtM is townie af. Momo using appeal to popularity is kinda reinforcing the fact her reads could be onto something. The momo/mastina interaction also pinged me and when I brought it up Eddie AtEd me. Like I said, he's way better than this. Were not lynching Eddie because of his flip - we need him mechanically cleared. Mastina not feeling well means we should probably have sympathy and lynch NICO today as her role has less town utility than Pines.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Nico

[MOMOMEN]

Except Wisdom and myself who object repeatedly. What did you claim? Can’t find it[/i]

Read the first 5 pages lol. And Wisdom never objected, and he hard tr'd me too if you wanna cite wisdom. Also, a role you can't target your mason partner with makes sense if its a compulsive neg util. lol.

Yes. If we mislynch a mason tomorrow momrangel confirms as scum and the other pair as scum. FYI if you’re insistent on checking the pair Momrangal check lovebird. Beeboy claimed mason godfather. I would much rather you check Mastina

Look, no point hiding this anymore. We used our messages to communicate. Mastina messaged me a claim earlyish in the day (after the mason stuff was in thread a bit, before it was popular). I messaged back for her to confirm I was loud (after I had the mod confirm that her action would not be affected by loud, to prove I'm not a ninja), which she's done in thread. I gave her a phrase to give to Yume and Yume did it, proving they had day chat. I gave some very harsh words about Yume if its a gambit, and if yume's gambitting she's hard blacklisted (

if you haven't redacted it by the end of day 1

). like, I have no words for play that bad and I've played with some pretty damn bad players. I don't think Yume is that dumb though and I do believe her claim, so they're masons or scum partners. IF they're scum partners, sure, but that'll come out eventually like I told you and like you shoudl really know as a mathematical player, and otherwise they're just both town.

I think Bee and Love are gambitting, so yes, if we leave Mara and you alive I would rather he target Love. However, I hard townread both of them so I don't really care. At this point we're gonna mass claim day 2 or day 3. At that point, if 4 mason claims are still alive and town has other power, yes, we look twice at them. I think you and Pine still contains a scum, but looking back fresher I kind of see Ali slot town and I still thought Wisdom was solid although PoE sketch so idfk. Mara is known as someone who can fake her town meta well so idk why people are confidently TRing there, so honestly that's my second pick for a lynch after you/pine. Then there's your NM read which is just daft, and its a scummy slot. If we are lynching outside of everything, fucking fine, this day needs to end.

[MOMOMEN]

I think OtM is townie af. Momo using appeal to popularity is kinda reinforcing the fact her reads could be onto something. The momo/mastina interaction also pinged me and when I brought it up Eddie AtEd me. Like I said, he's way better than this. Were not lynching Eddie because of his flip - we need him mechanically cleared. Mastina not feeling well means we should probably have sympathy and lynch NICO today as her role has less town utility than Pines.

I spent an hour writing that post and you address it with this? Honestly fuck off dude. I know you're town because your tone here is not your scum game, but I don't appreciate how you're playing this at all. At all. AtE, AtA, whatever. We aren't fucking lynching a mason you dumb mother fucker. Way better than this? I sorted 5 townies as town and am shouting it and you're trying your hardest to gamethrow. Actually I really do hope you're scum because then this would be good play but I just don't see it and due to how moronic all of your pushes I did try really hard to see it. Call that a compliment if you are scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm down to lynch red as well.

Now you call me dumb instead of trying to address our arguments. You fuck off dude. You've done nothing worth shit except death tunnel pine.

[MOMOMEN]

WHAT ARGUMENTS

I WROTE A LONG POST ADDRESSING ENVNERYTHING YOU SAID AND YOU FUCKING IGNORED IT

FUCK OFF YOU MASIVE FUCKING BUMBLE BEE ASS SNIFFER

[MOMOMEN]

Spoiler: Eddie quotes a lot of things

Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

VOTE: Sudowoodo

Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

VOTE: wisdom

Ok YOLOKILL

that was fun.

inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.

lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

VOTE: wisdom

VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho

I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

VOTE: sudo

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

VOTE: Sudo

I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because

we

sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?

Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.

sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read


a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.

Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?

It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.

Except

it doesn't

. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.

Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

VOTE: Sudowoodo

Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

VOTE: wisdom

Ok YOLOKILL

that was fun.

inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.

lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

VOTE: wisdom

VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho

I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

VOTE: sudo

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

VOTE: Sudo

I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because

we

sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?

Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.

sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read


a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.

Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?

It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.

Except

it doesn't

. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.

Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

VOTE: Sudowoodo

Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

VOTE: wisdom

Ok YOLOKILL

that was fun.

inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.

lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

VOTE: wisdom

VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho

I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

VOTE: sudo

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

VOTE: Sudo

I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because

we

sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?

Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.

sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read


a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.

Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?

It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.

Except

it doesn't

. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.

Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

VOTE: Sudowoodo

Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

VOTE: wisdom

Ok YOLOKILL

that was fun.

inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.

lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

VOTE: wisdom

VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho

I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

VOTE: sudo

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

VOTE: Sudo

I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because

we

sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?

Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.

sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read


a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.

Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?

It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.

Except

it doesn't

. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.

Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

VOTE: Sudowoodo

Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

VOTE: wisdom

Ok YOLOKILL

that was fun.

inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.

lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

VOTE: wisdom

VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho

I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

VOTE: sudo

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

VOTE: Sudo

I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because

we

sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?

Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.

sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read


a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.

Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?

It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.

Except

it doesn't

. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.

Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

VOTE: Sudowoodo

Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

VOTE: wisdom

Ok YOLOKILL

that was fun.

inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.

lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

VOTE: wisdom

VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho

I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

VOTE: sudo

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

VOTE: Sudo

I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because

we

sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?

Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.

sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read


a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.

Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?

It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.

Except

it doesn't

. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.

Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

VOTE: Sudowoodo

Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

VOTE: wisdom

Ok YOLOKILL

that was fun.

inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.

lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

VOTE: wisdom

VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho

I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

VOTE: sudo

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

VOTE: Sudo

I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because

we

sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?

Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.

sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read


a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.

Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?

It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.

Except

it doesn't

. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.

Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

[CheekyTeeky]

Fine

@Mod replace me.

What a shit game. Looks like I overestimated peoples competency.

Pedit you're an assclown. Gfy.

[OnTheMark]

Cheeky Much as I would LOVE to see the eventual red flip from Nico lynching a mason claim isn’t happening today.

Nico clearly can’t and won’t explain the modifier as it won’t stand up to scrutiny. It’s clear the duo is scum.

1/2 - 3/4ths of the game more or less knows why I scumread Mastina and as long as we aren’t stupid this game should be broken. One person has an amazing ear for this and the other reads better than I do and you see it too. Such a beautiful piece of art.

People will come around and see it.

All I have to do is wait and then scum are forced to fall.

[OnTheMark]

Fine

@Mod replace me.

What a shit game. Looks like I overestimated peoples competency.

Pedit you're an assclown. Gfy.

Please don’t Cheeky.

Please stay

[NicoRobin]

Okay, you want me to explain? Then I will.

My modifier is enabler, and I enable her role.

Happy now?

[OnTheMark]

Okay, you want me to explain? Then I will.

My modifier is enabler, and I enable her role.

Happy now?

....not really.

That doesn’t explain why she can’t make you ninja.

It would be empty and useless. Perfect thing to do for neg utility.

A ninja enabler is still an enabler.

[NicoRobin]

Okay, you want me to explain? Then I will.

My modifier is enabler, and I enable her role.

Happy now?

....not really.

That doesn’t explain why she can’t make you ninja.

It would be empty and useless. Perfect thing to do for neg utility.

A ninja enabler is still an enabler.

I am too tired now. Will tell you exact details in the morn.

[beeboy]

@mod I need to replace out

Sorry no time for this game, should have done this 1 week ago tbh.

[Lovebird]

Pls don't go

[MOMOMEN]

Fine

@Mod replace me.

What a shit game. Looks like I overestimated peoples competency.

Pedit you're an assclown. Gfy.

jesus christ, you're the ass. i've actively tried to talk to you and you keep shutting me down and calling me scum because i'm not voting the mason you want me to.

[MOMOMEN]

@mod I need to replace out

Sorry no time for this game, should have done this 1 week ago tbh.

and YOU

nothing really... just sad

this went from a good playerlist to a shit one real quick

[Pine]

Mostly because a lot of you are playing really toxic. Please don't act like you're the victim here.

[MariaR]

wow pine stop being toxic

[Pine]

Maria gets it <3

[MOMOMEN]

My hydra partner got bullied out of the game honestly fuck off

[Pine]

As did mine. However, no one's innocent here.