Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[havingfitz]

and softing group 3 conf scum.

?

This:

no. 3 is confirmed to have xcum.

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-26 22:30:21).

if you're hinting at role information, be explicit about it

why would I be explicit about my role in twilight?

I mean

..snip...

I don't have a guilty, no. If I am a PR it is unrelated to this push.

Which he flat out says later...

(Technically it says no night action)

@Mod: confirm/deny that this is mountainous?

its not

-pr soft

[Wisdom]

pretty sure that meant nothing

[Wisdom]

Current reads

1	2	3
DeasVail	BuJaber	dramonic
Eddie Cane	Kokichi Oma	REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
havingfitz	Pine	SirCakez
northsidegal	riku	zMuffinMan
	Wisdom

I might vote 3 after all

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

the overwhelming and surprising number of REAL MEN in group 2 who are so EAGER TO DIE WITH HONOR leads me to think that they are NOT SCUM

[Pine]

Current reads

1	2	3
DeasVail	BuJaber	dramonic
Eddie Cane	Kokichi Oma	REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
havingfitz	Pine	SirCakez
northsidegal	riku	zMuffinMan
	Wisdom

I might vote 3 after all

That's what I've been saying. I'm ready to "die with honor," but I think three is a better tactical decision

[Wisdom]

How do you feel about the people in group 1?

[Pine]

Eddie, Fitz, and especially NSG all feel solidly Town to me. I don't remember DV's meta well enough to make a judgment yet, but Muffin wants him and Muffin is still pinging me.

[Wisdom]

What's town about Eddie?

[Pine]

*shrug*

Attitude, tone. Not at my computer or I'd find examples in ISO.

[Wisdom]

nope.
He's tunneling group 3 with zero consideration of his own group having scum
The only times he's mentioned them was to hand both nsg and dv weakly reasoned townreads and call fitz meh

[dramonic]

Eddie, Fitz, and especially NSG all feel solidly Town to me. I don't remember DV's meta well enough to make a judgment yet, but Muffin wants him and Muffin is still pinging me.

ouch

[Pine]

Shrug

Point stands, I have no interest in G1. If nothing else, I have bigger fish to fry and want Fitz and NSG around.

[Eddie Cane]

nope.
He's tunneling group 3 with zero consideration of his own group having scum
The only times he's mentioned them was to hand both nsg and dv weakly reasoned townreads and call fitz meh

I think you're scum, because this is not how you treated me previously when I was useless. Thoughts?

[BuJaber]

Eddie 3 questions:
Do you think it's possible group 2 has 0 scum?
Do you think it's possible group 1 has 0 scum?
If yes to both do you think it's possible they could have 0 scum at the same time, ie 3 scum in group 3?

[Eddie Cane]

I also have stuff to answer from Muffin. I'm busy.

Both are possible.

2 is unlikely.

[Wisdom]

im going with pine/eddie/dram

wish i could read cakez to be more sure

[Wisdom]

nope.
He's tunneling group 3 with zero consideration of his own group having scum
The only times he's mentioned them was to hand both nsg and dv weakly reasoned townreads and call fitz meh

I think you're scum, because this is not how you treated me previously when I was useless. Thoughts?

i nowhere called you useless in that quote, cool misrepping

[Eddie Cane]

cool scumclaming

[BuJaber]

The only thing that was stopping me from voting group 3 was that I thought RMOJ and dramon are too scummy to be scum and my strongish townread of cake. I read cakes ISO and I couldn't see what made him a strongish townread for me . So if I take out these two factors group 3 becomes a pretty attractive lynch.
I'm also not convinced eddie is town but we do agree on one thing - group 3 has to contain 1 scum at least. No way all 4 of them are town.

But I'm paranoid thinking about the wagon progression:
why was group 2 not hammered? I'm pretty sure we got to L-2. Maybe L-1 if I missed a vote.. isn't it weird considering we only needed 4 votes from outside the group for a lynch? Even if there's 1 scum in group 1 not 0 scum benefit a lot from lynching the big group. If scum aren't in 2 why didn't they?

[Wisdom]

i mean they'd look sus if they suddenly voted for 2 there

[SirCakez]

Let's talk about dramon individually - the people who townread him.. what is townie about their posts? I've read their ISO multiple times and don't see anything that could give you that impression. I can accept a null read but please link one post that is townie. Because I read indifference at best and intentional fluff at worst.

This is very accurate for dram. Honestly I don't see the scumreading logic either. It's just null AF.

Sigh.

Wisdom, you fucking suck at reading me.

This is a scummy ass response.

239 was a really town post

Agreed also. I'm now townreading NSG ftr, that post + her later pressure on me really flipped my perspective. Rest of Group 1 remains ugly though.

@Fitz what makes you townread Eddie Cane and DV?

Eddie for no scum pings and softing group 3 conf scum.
DVs 218 felt town to me. Why? Because. Gut. Felt town.

Why were those the only town reads of mine you were interested in?

Because I saw nothing that made those two worth townreading.

the overwhelming and surprising number of REAL MEN in group 2 who are so EAGER TO DIE WITH HONOR leads me to think that they are NOT SCUM

mmm this could be just WIFOM though. Also Pine has been pushing back (see below).

That's what I've been saying. I'm ready to "die with honor," but I think three is a better tactical decision

Doesn't sound like you are that ready to die with honor, then.

I didn't vote 2 bcuz it's already got a good amount of votes and I don't want the day to end yet.

[BuJaber]

i mean they'd look sus if they suddenly voted for 2 there

How bad is that really in a game like this though if the benefit is 4-5 townies dead? And also generally speaking people don't scumread both the hammerer and the L-1 vote together.

[dramonic]

The only thing that was stopping me from voting group 3 was that I thought RMOJ and dramon are too scummy to be scum and my strongish townread of cake.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: 3

[SirCakez]

VOTE: 3

intriguing