Newbie 1863: Rugby - Game Over

[Oxy]

I'm not voting Flicker

that's fine. I wouldn't expect you to hammer your partner

[Oxy]

@Quick Flicker is at L-1 btw

[Flicker]

For the record, I'm a Vanilla Townie. (I know that was the implication of not cc'ing, but I don't know if Quick read that.) Meji's also a confirmed townie now. Unless both scum are already on my wagon, I expect Quick to come back in ~1 1/2 hours and hammer for a scum victory.

Quick, if you're town,* is there anything I can do/say to get you

not

to vote for me?

(*Which I don't think you are, but if you engage with me instead of voting, you probably are... unless you want to slow play/troll the win a little.)

[Quick]

Did the JK leave any crumbs on who they would be JKing?

Read the following posts. They are the closest we have to crumbs.
We're all in agreement that NK was town reading teacher during D2. With that in mind, consider NK's last few posts:
698, 700, 717, 730, 736

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OK, so based on these posts alone, I am Heavily suspecting the Tracker claim because the first post and last post's here kinda confirm each other. In the first, NK explicitly states he is going to JK Meji. Then in the last he talks about how he is just going to stick to the plan. IIRC, he hasn't said anywhere else that he would JK the Tracker Claim. Because of this, and because he was TRing the Tracker claim, and because he JK Thor assuming he was saving Thor from NK initially (doesn't matter that he changed his stance later in the game and wanted to lynch Thor which was the correct play), I don't see him doing the same thing with JKing the Tracker claim given what his perspective on Thor was i.e. lynching him because the Town couldn't be sure Thor wasn't Scum.

[Quick]

VOTE: Flicker

[Oxy]

ayyyy good lynch

[Quick]

ayyyy good lynch

GG everyone.

[mhsmith0]

Votecount 3.Final

Quick (1) Meji Fan
Flicker (4) Irrelephant11, Oxy, teacher, Quick L-0
Not Voting (1) Flicker

Day three deadline is Thursday May 17, 8 PM PST. (expired on 2018-05-17 20:00:00)

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch!

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[mhsmith0]

Flicker was lynched! He was

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

A victory condition has been achieved! Congratulations to the

mafia

team of Irrelephant11 and Quick!

Dead thread https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75865

Other threads will unlock in 48 hours barring objections from players. Thanks for playing everyone!

[mhsmith0]

Actions go here when I'm less lazy lol

[brassherald]

ayyyy good lynch

You're a sweet kid, Oxy.

[teacher]

Oxy I’ll be accepting the apology card anytime.

[teacher]

I just decided there was no getting either elephant or Oxy off each other, so better to take the chance today. Very well played elephant.

[Oxy]

so uh, what was the team?

[Oxy]

oh i see now

[Oxy]

huh, whatcha gonna do

[Flicker]

*She, but nbd.

GG, everybody.

*hands Oxy a towel to wipe the egg off his face*

[Oxy]

okay great, just one more game to finish up and i can get out of this cess pool

[Quick]

I believe this was the second shortest game I have ever played.

[Oxy]

everyone in here was terrific tho. well played gg, was much fun

[Quick]

okay great, just one more game to finish up and i can get out of this cess pool

Join us on Personality Cafe! People there are generally very accepting and you don't get all the ego's you do here.

[Oxy]

I appreciate the invitation. I might check it out. =)

[mhsmith0]

Some VERY quick thoughts

1) Irrelephant played a pretty strong newbscum game imo. The one caution I'd make would be that at least sometimes, towns will force you into harder situations where you can't just make generically town-looking posts, but will actually have to more actively push scum wincon instead of

2) Oxy, if you can channel what you were doing in this game for when you rand scum, you'll be a very formidable player. When you're town, I'd probably recommend a bit more re-evaluation, particularly when you're proven wrong about something. "I think A and I think B, I'm wrong about A, therefore B is still likely" isn't always going to be wrong, but I think you'll find that more often than not it just means that your reads are generally wrong. When you're right about B and wrong about A, there tends to be scum energy involved in pushing you towards A, and trying ot look for that as a test of whether B truly holds true is I think a valuable exercise of time.

3) Meji you had quality reads for most of the game, but for better or worse activity is considered more important than accuracy for many people. If you're able to summon more time to be more active, you'll be better able to get the lynches you want.

4) D1/2 VC's:
James Brafin (5)Thor665 , Irrelephant11 , Not Known 15 , teacher , Oxy , L-0
teacher (1)Nauci ,
Nauci (1)Meji Fan ,
Not Known 15 (1)James Brafin ,
Not Voting (1)Flicker ,

Oxy (1)Thor665 ,
Nauci (1)Meji Fan ,
Meji Fan (1)Irrelephant11
Thor665 (5)Nauci, Not Known 15, Oxy, teacher, Flicker L-0

In both cases there was a runaway lynch wagon, and in both cases you saw scum more off wagon than on. In general, unless there's a counterwagon on a slot that seems very scummy or the main wagon just looks like total bullshit for one reason or another, you're generally likelier to see scum off wagon compared to on.

Probably more thoughts when I have time...

[brassherald]

Technically, you do not have to finish Noir if you don't want to be here.

I'm not encouraging you to get out, necessarily, and think you seem like an okay guy, but, hey, just sharing.

[mhsmith0]

I believe this was the second shortest game I have ever played.

I won a game once where the last scum self-hammered before I made my first in-game post. That was pretty amusing tbh.