Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[SirCakez]

I knew who Muffin was. He's part of why I joined.

Is that why you put him in your group?

dram why does koki suicide like this as scum? presumably they didn't know about Wis' swap thing.

What does the Wisdom claim have to do with the Koki claim?

because wisdom was proposing swapping koki out

[SirCakez]

gal why is realmen town

[SirCakez]

and eddie cane for that matter

[northsidegal]

gal why is realmen town

it's a light read, he's had a few observations that seem to come from a pretty genuine mindset.

actually slightly reconsidering looking back over the ISO.

[havingfitz]

because wisdom was proposing swapping koki out

ah. Good point.

[northsidegal]

and eddie cane for that matter

i expect eddie cane to more aggressively get himself townread as scum. maybe that's a bad assumption / won't hold true for this game, but i'm not really interested in lynching in my own group at the moment anyways.

[SirCakez]

i'm just gonna talk to myself

if it's 1-1-1
then prob 1 of (eddie, fitz) (riku, pine) (realmen, dram)
hmm I think (fitz, pine, realmen) is plausible
pine is like lockscum
fitz eddie realmen leanscum
riku dram nullish

nothing explains all these trs on realmen tho

sorry if this is too spammy! @implo
i just keep thinking of stuff to add

P-edit: thanks for actually acknowledging that re;realmen! unlike some people...
eddie is not top of my kill list atm anyway, i think flips will be really revealing as to his alignment

[northsidegal]

@Mod, V/LA through thursday

[SirCakez]

buj townread is reaffirmed by ISOing
i like the townblock that is forming of (wis, koki, gal) which makes me think lynching 3 is a better idea
dv remains a total wildcard
wis being unable to read muffin also is making me shaky there

[SirCakez]

can probably toss buj in that townblock
mm muffin's claim was pretty townie now that i think about
hmmm

[dramonic]

That townblock is MINIMUM least 66% scum.

[dramonic]

edit: 50%

[SirCakez]

highly disagree, koki's claim is town and wis' hardheadedness here is town for him and gal has been townposting since that wall responding to DV

[havingfitz]

If we know there is scum in G2 if we believe Koki's claim...why would we swap someone out of G2 (potentially not the scum) into group three (for potentially a G3 scum) and then vote out G3...potentially helping scum dodge a bullet instead of getting lynched?

If people believe Koki's claim and that he is town wouldn't the best move be to swap him into G3 for anyone (potentially a G3 scum) and vote out G2 for possibly 2 scum removed.

[zMuffinMan]

ok, so after thinking it through i don't think anyone should swap anyone and we just lynch group 2 - it's safer to lynch g2 than doing a swap and potentially fucking things up (or hitting less scum as a result)

this also covers the outside chance that kokichi is just scum, even though i think that less likely than him being town atm. swapping koki out isn't a bad idea per se, i think it's just less safe

i'm considering the merits of one other possibility where i swap wisdom for myself and he swaps me + someone else outside of group 2. this might give us a better chance to hit multiple scum

there may be other better alternatives i havent thought of

[SirCakez]

If we know there is scum in G2 if we believe Koki's claim...why would we swap someone out of G2 (potentially not the scum) into group three (for potentially a G3 scum) and then vote out G3...potentially helping scum dodge a bullet instead of getting lynched?

If people believe Koki's claim and that he is town wouldn't the best move be to swap him into G3 for anyone (potentially a G3 scum) and vote out G2 for possibly 2 scum removed.

everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving

ok, so after thinking it through i don't think anyone should swap anyone and we just lynch group 2 - it's safer to lynch g2 than doing a swap and potentially fucking things up (or hitting less scum as a result)

this also covers the outside chance that kokichi is just scum, even though i think that less likely than him being town atm. swapping koki out isn't a bad idea per se, i think it's just less safe

i'm considering the merits of one other possibility where i swap wisdom for myself and he swaps me + someone else outside of group 2. this might give us a better chance to hit multiple scum

there may be other better alternatives i havent thought of

this seems like a waste when i'm sure we'll need the swaps later

[havingfitz]

nothing explains all these trs on realmen tho

You are omitting RMOJ from all your scum scenarios...why are you questioning people's tr on him/them/she/it if you aren't scum sorting him/them/she/it?

[zMuffinMan]

what do you mean "need the swaps later"?

[SirCakez]

nothing explains all these trs on realmen tho

You are omitting RMOJ from all your scum scenarios...why are you questioning people's tr on him/them/she/it if you aren't scum sorting him/them/she/it?

read my posts on this page again

what do you mean "need the swaps later"?

like for later days if scum fuck us up by putting obvtowners with obvscummers
that doesn't really make sense now that I think about it but it's what i meant

[dramonic]

everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving

There is no word for how wrong you are <_<

[havingfitz]

everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving

Then we should be swapping pine for whoever the most likely to be town in withing G3. If that RMOJ or zMuff...the man...the " "legend" "...the claimer? Or if riku is suspect as well...zMuff could swap himself with riku to double G3's scum prospects.

[dramonic]

Wisdom is the one who claimed.

[havingfitz]

read my posts on this page again

I read realmen in post 606 but it didn't register. I had RMOJ on the brain.

[Kokichi Oma]

So Wisdom, what happens if Pine isn't the scum? I like the safe option of switching me out for someone scummy.

[Eddie Cane]

okay i'm bored of my "reaction test"

group 3 has scum because Muffin either rolled scum, therefore it has scum, or he rolled town and scum either did a 1 / 1 / 1 split or they put a couple with Muffin because nobody wants to lynch a legend on the first game back. the latter works depending on who in this game would ahve known muffin even by name aside myself, so if muffin could do a list that'd be swell and if people want to self-identify that's townpoints. fits with it being the old tryhard group. my first choice is not swapping because its possible ROJ is one of the scum there and switching is a liability. obviously, this is wifom city but i don't see a better place to push and this is by far the best grouping. i think wisdom's role probably makes him town, unfortunately.

Who here actually knows who Muffin is? Like in terms of legend status.

I asked this yes