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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:32 am

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D1 own-group-sensor would be a pretty cool role in this setup actually now that im thinking about possible fake-claims
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:32 am

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but that would be so overpowered i think

a sensor role in general is just overpowered

i dunno why i ever considered that no sane mod would include it
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:33 am

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the question is: is implosion sane?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:39 am

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Do I hardclaim to make wisdom claim
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:45 am

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uh... i think you've dug yourself in pretty deep atm and i don't know if you would normally do something like this and it's par for the course or not...

but

if you want to act like it's serious you should come up with something believable

ALSO

if you want to claim something like a modified sensor i'd probably go with day-1-only group sensor (you need to select a group, you get told IF there's scum in that group but not who specifically) and that you used this some time BETWEEN when you first posted in thread and when you first voted i think

but actually i think this is overpowered maybe (because that just breaks the setup in some splits possibly?)

not sure
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:46 am

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if you were town and you seriously had a result, would you hard-claim it? just think as though you're actually town with whatever role you're pretending to have...
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:47 am

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also you run the serious risk of a counter-claim i guess! which kind of defeats the point of your whole gambit!

but uh...

you've kinda dug that grave already so...

whoops if that happens?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:02 pm

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honestly not sure how i'd do it if i were in your shoes:

you need a believable claim
that won't be counter-claimed
and explains why you've played how you've played
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:03 pm

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and you also need to weave the story that explains why you didn't vote until post #84 (but this is easily explained if you were waiting on a result from implosion)
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:05 pm

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oh lol you already claimed 1-shot scum detector so go with that i guess? don't use the word sensor
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:08 pm

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so somewhere between your initial posts and #84 where you voted, you used your role i guess

GLHF with your lying

unfortunately im like 5 pages behind right now and at work (and i shouldnt even be posting this!) so i cant join in the fun
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:22 pm

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i think after all the spamming i've done here the only piece of advice i can really offer is: you do you
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 2:13 pm

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In post 530, Eddie Cane wrote:group 3 has scum because Muffin either rolled scum, therefore it has scum, or he rolled town and scum either did a 1 / 1 / 1 split or they put a couple with Muffin because nobody wants to lynch a legend on the first game back. the latter works depending on who in this game would ahve known muffin even by name aside myself, so if muffin could do a list that'd be swell and if people want to self-identify that's townpoints. fits with it being the old tryhard group. my first choice is not swapping because its possible ROJ is one of the scum there and switching is a liability. obviously, this is wifom city but i don't see a better place to push and this is by far the best grouping. i think wisdom's role probably makes him town, unfortunately.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 2:28 pm

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Hahaha, if they switch pine with one of you that would be hilarious
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 2:42 pm

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In post 110, zMuffinMan wrote:GLHF with your lying
I never lie.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 2:45 pm

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i believe that. sorry for accusing you
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 2:52 pm

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ok, i'm guessing there is no investigative role in this game (maybe, depends what eddie is hinting) and that i was overly paranoid n0
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:05 pm

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g'nite!

That would be cool if the consensus decided to swap zMuff for Pine and vote out G3. I like the idea of you switching out as well if people believe your claim and tl you for it.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:06 pm

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switching koki for someone and lynching g2 also works for us lol

just gotta keep the bullshit factory churning out the goods!
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:28 pm

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i can't really call NSG's reads good per se

but if you ignore the kokichi read, her POE is pretty strong

and she's playing a pretty strong games in terms of how town she looks
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:32 pm

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i think it's incredibly rare that wisdom ever agrees with me in a game about anything

so

i'm hoping he completely ignores everything i'm saying and swaps koki out then we lynch group 2!
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:34 pm

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i await pine's endgame comment: "AT LEAST I WAS RIGHT ABOUT MUFFIN!"
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:40 am

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ok. well. tonight has been fun

gl catching up!
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:42 am

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actually, i suppose i should have been detailing my thought processes in here as i caught up but eh

essentially i've been trying to egg wisdom into doing his 'selfish' swap so i can swap him after it. if it 'confirms' me a scum, i'm fine with that anyway because if we lynched, say, group 3 then it's an all town lynch and i can get rid of certain players tomorrow with my own lynch anyway

the only problem, of course, is that it relies on you two carrying the game and havingfitz isn't in the best position atm

kokichi might pull through!
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:42 am

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of course, this all BACKFIRES if town lynches group 2 after the swaps occur
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