In no world scum never have scum chat. Except it happens.In post 3624, MariaR wrote:in no world is a mason cop going to town with only 1 pair of masons reeee
Wasn't able to find reasons the last time you were scum either. Or at least any reasons I had, you immediately shot down. Getting into that just isn't useful. PoE is the best tool I have right now, personally.In post 3619, MariaR wrote:Can you read my iso and try to give reason for scum me instead of policy so the gamestate isn't ruined it's the main reason I avoid you. If we can get that out of the way it's fine
Fair I think bee and love don't auto = scumIn post 3625, OnTheMark wrote:In no world scum never have scum chat. Except it happens.In post 3624, MariaR wrote:in no world is a mason cop going to town with only 1 pair of masons reeee
In no world is town given neg utility shit. Except it happens.
Momrangel if scum is forced to confirm Mastina/Nico town. I have 0 desire to lynch them right now.
Then your PoE should have lovebird since you scumread them before.In post 3626, Mathdino wrote:Wasn't able to find reasons the last time you were scum either. Or at least any reasons I had, you immediately shot down. Getting into that just isn't useful. PoE is the best tool I have right now, personally.In post 3619, MariaR wrote:Can you read my iso and try to give reason for scum me instead of policy so the gamestate isn't ruined it's the main reason I avoid you. If we can get that out of the way it's fine
Strong disagreeIn post 3631, Mathdino wrote:Lovebird is only scum if beeboy is also scum.
To pre-empt questions or AtE defenses, this has nothing to do with Ali's reads except where stated. I went through Maria's ISO line by line over the last hour. I feel it is a solid case independent of Ali's hydra comments on Discord regarding soulreading Claire as scum.In post 3634, Pine wrote:CASE ON MARIA:
+For starters, has done practically nothing to gamesolve.
+Has focused on discrediting reads against you rather than scumhunting.
+Alisae spotted connections and possible support between Kokichi and Maria, to the point where e thought they were Masons until confronted. Not a good person to be connected to.
+Lots and lots and lots of nearly-contentless posting. Enough to remain present and current, but just fades back into unhelpfulness when not being paid attention to.
+Consistent undermining of Masons. All of them. Suspecting one pair and not the other is fine, but Maria pushed all of them and the Mason cop who would help sort it.
+Consistent buddying of Alisae with some dismissal of me; clearly working an angle there.
+Immediate buddying to OTM (2737), immediate dismissal of me when Ali repped out (2739-2743).
+Just absoluteconstanthard-defending of Kokichi, with zero reason given. Seriously, I can't find a one.
+I had to get to post 3048 before I found anything AT ALL from Maria resembling a case, reasoning, or an effort to genuinely push someone. Even then, it's one of the Masons. And it ended up being one of the confirmed ones. And also a piss-poor weak push anyway.
+The largest burst of activity or effort in the entire game from Maria came from Mathdino's replace-in. Immediate efforts to discredit and drag conversation negative and off-topic.
+Practically her only stated reasons for anything here are setup spec, and frankly one-dimensional setup spec.
We're only a couple of days away from an already-extended deadline.
Barring Kokichi, I feel Maria is the best lynch.
That or you’re a scum beard yeah.In post 3631, Mathdino wrote:LLD/Mom is consistent. Doubt Pine goes out of his way to assist in a PoE that fucks over both his scumbuddies basically tomorrow or the day after. Defence of LLD is consistent with Pine-scum I guess.
LLD/Mom/Maria more likely lol
Edit: Ok dude. Continue scumreading everyone who disagrees with you.
Lovebird is only scum if beeboy is also scum.
So a situation in which scum-me is defending Lovebird basically means you're calling a scumteam of Lovebird/beeboy/Mathdino.
yeah this is actually a beautiful opportunity to policy maria for the same reason i was originally policying OTMIn post 3632, MariaR wrote:Strong disagreeIn post 3631, Mathdino wrote:Lovebird is only scum if beeboy is also scum.
Because lovebird hasn’t posted any content to be read. Therefore no read can be formed. So Beeboy has no read and claims masons to protect scum buddy.In post 3639, Mathdino wrote:remind me why you're so certain that beeboy can't read lovebird
to the point that you outright think a town-beeboy's 100% confident read is actually worse than random
In post 3635, Pine wrote:To pre-empt questions or AtE defenses, this has nothing to do with Ali's reads except where stated. I went through Maria's ISO line by line over the last hour. I feel it is a solid case independent of Ali's hydra comments on Discord regarding soulreading Claire as scum.In post 3634, Pine wrote:CASE ON MARIA:
+For starters, has done practically nothing to gamesolve.
How have I not game solved when I have my lynch pool all figured out. What is game solving to you pine? Perhaps we solve in different manners but I feel like I've solved my own way
+Has focused on discrediting reads against you rather than scumhunting.
Reads against who? I've actively changed my pool around and scumhunted this is just false
+Alisae spotted connections and possible support between Kokichi and Maria, to the point where e thought they were Masons until confronted. Not a good person to be connected to.
I defended Kokichi because I don't think he ate'd like that as scum I never once said we were masons.
+Lots and lots and lots of nearly-contentless posting. Enough to remain present and current, but just fades back into unhelpfulness when not being paid attention to.
Okay fair point but how is this scummy you've seen me filler post in other games where we town I'm a reactive poster I like people posting towards me otherwise I fade until I see something I want to comment on
+Consistent undermining of Masons. All of them. Suspecting one pair and not the other is fine, but Maria pushed all of them and the Mason cop who would help sort it.
Correct if we have masons the play here is bad you should never fully out a mason pair I don't believe any of them. I think the play here is bad and the Mason cop is more then likely a scum role you don't leave people alive for claim you vote based on scumreads and I sr mon idc about the claim
+Consistent buddying of Alisae with some dismissal of me; clearly working an angle there.
I don't think I even buddied alisae at all I was pushing your slot for almost the full early game but I am friends with Ali so yes I'm gonna be more willing to listen to Ali then you because Ali can read me well where you have ml'd me in the few games we played together
+Immediate buddying to OTM (2737), immediate dismissal of me when Ali repped out (2739-2743).
You didn't try to engage with me and of course I'm buddying OTM Wisdoms replace out was towny as fuck and has been obv town
+Just absoluteconstanthard-defending of Kokichi, with zero reason given. Seriously, I can't find a one.
He doesn't play this way as scum the self vote the way he's acting he outright doesn't I'd bet the game on it.
+I had to get to post 3048 before I found anything AT ALL from Maria resembling a case, reasoning, or an effort to genuinely push someone. Even then, it's one of the Masons. And it ended up being one of the confirmed ones. And also a piss-poor weak push anyway.
If you want a case on someone ask. I'm not one to randomly case someone I can state reads but I like getting prompted to do something or do live interaction
+The largest burst of activity or effort in the entire game from Maria came from Mathdino's replace-in. Immediate efforts to discredit and drag conversation negative and off-topic.
You can stop with that because I would never use a out of game issue to push an agenda in the game and I ask you don't try to act like I would that's just disrespectful and a low blow
+Practically her only stated reasons for anything here are setup spec, and frankly one-dimensional setup spec.
fair
We're only a couple of days away from an already-extended deadline.
Barring Kokichi, I feel Maria is the best lynch.
Nobody thinks you did. Scum cftww?In post 3545, Lovebird wrote:Idk why anyone thinks I tell beeboy to with me claim mason as scum there, makes totally no sense. Wasn't scumread anyways
You had about 80 pages to call him out including multiple prompts from me. GoodtryIn post 3548, Lovebird wrote:Urghhh beeboy claims masons with me and then replaces out
Creature if he posts is town. If not he is scum.In post 3641, Mathdino wrote:listen to yourself right now
you sound like people who think not_mafia is unreadable
or worse, people who think creature is unreadable
No, he doesn't.In post 3555, Lovebird wrote:I think beeboy really does have a secret tell on me so it made sense
Come push lovebird with me.In post 3643, MOMOMEN wrote:Nobody thinks you did. Scum cftww?In post 3545, Lovebird wrote:Idk why anyone thinks I tell beeboy to with me claim mason as scum there, makes totally no sense. Wasn't scumread anyways
Stop asking shit wifom qsIn post 3575, Lovebird wrote:Why does Nadia retract claim if we're scumIn post 3572, OnTheMark wrote:Yes and it does.In post 3570, Lovebird wrote:What do you think scenario is, that I'm scum with beeboy? Doesn't make sense
Why does bee claim in first place if we're scum?