Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

I still think Wisdom is town

why?

[Pine]

i really do hope people are actually reading and paying attention to all of wisdom's recent posts

Ehhhhh, if you were this concerned about Widsom, you'd swap him into G3.

I'm back to a Muffin SR.

Let's lynch G3 as is.

[Wisdom]

sadly muffin will swap whoever he wants if we try to lynch it as is

compare with cakez who is open to flipping if it helps

[zMuffinMan]

not happening

i am 100% swapping with someone from G2 if it comes to lynching G3

but you're right, i should just go with my own reads and disregard public opinion

[Pine]

That is after all the Townish thing to do.

[havingfitz]

I still think Wisdom is town

why?

Early on...general agreement with things he said. Effort.
Gut. Seemed to come from town. My read on him's taken a hit a bit with his sheeping of DVs shitty case on me. Awkward? What? Moreso now for his pr which I think leans townish and my own stubbornness.

[zMuffinMan]

pine, the only reason i haven't swapped anyone, let alone wisdom, is that G2 is STILL the best lynch today so i'd prefer not swapping if i don't have to - this is becoming less likely a scenario, but i'm not willing to give up until there's no hope of it

that's why i want the people who currently aren't posting to chime in before i need to make a decision

that said, if any more voting occurs, i'm going to swap who i want and be done with it

[havingfitz]

Does your swap reset votes?

[zMuffinMan]

yes

[zMuffinMan]

general agreement with things he said. Effort.

what things he said? what effort?

[havingfitz]

So what does it matter if anymore voting occurs in your decision process?

[zMuffinMan]

the group is currently L-3 by my count

any more voting means it's close enough to a lynch that i'm just going to do what i want before it happens

[implosion]

VOTE COUNT 1.10

1	2	3
DeasVail	BuJaber	dramonic
Eddie Cane	Kokichi Oma	riku
havingfitz	Pine	SirCakez
northsidegal	REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE	zMuffinMan
	Wisdom

Group 1

(0):

Group 2

(3): Eddie Cane, dramonic, zMuffinMan

Group 3

(4): Wisdom, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE, BuJaber, Pine
Not voting: 6 (DeasVail, havingfitz, Kokichi Oma, northsidegal, riku, SirCakez)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-20 23:00:00).

@Implosion: You wouldn't allow sexism or homophobia in a game and this is just a different flavor of the same type of bullshit. Do something about RMOJ

I don't believe any rules have been violated to the extent where action is needed, but will remind everyone:

Be respectful of other players; do not insult them. Attack the argument, not the person.

[Wisdom]

not happening

i am 100% swapping with someone from G2 if it comes to lynching G3

but you're right, i should just go with my own reads and disregard public opinion

And if public opinion is you should flip?

[zMuffinMan]

i don't know what you're asking but i'm going to nod sagely

[Wisdom]

I'm asking, if public opinion wants you to not use your swap and just die with the rest of G3. Will you do it?

[zMuffinMan]

if you mean public consensus about whether i should use my role, then that entirely depends on whether we're lynching my group

there's literally zero reason for me to be in the lynch group if i don't need to be in the lynch group, so no, i'm not going to listen to anyone who says "don't swap but we're still lynching G3"

[Wisdom]

after sleeping on it, i decided i no longer give enough of a shit about this to do something selfish myself. i'll either use my role or not use my role depending on where public opinion sways

That's not what you said earlier

[zMuffinMan]

like, if we're doing the suboptimal lynch, then i am 100% going to use my role to sort G2

there is no way i would allow town to do this stupid fucking lynch while letting the guilty on G2 go unresolved in the event you're scum

the only reason i swap pine is if more people want it (though i'm not strictly opposed to it because there's a chance one or both of pine+riku might be scum and my reads are just wrong - i'm not an arrogant enough wanker to believe i've solved the game)

That's not what you said earlier

yeah, the "or not" obviously implies if we're still lynching G2

please stop pretending to be fucking dense

[Wisdom]

not really
it felt like you felt defeated and you knew we're lynching g3 in that post

[zMuffinMan]

you are not this stupid

there is 0% chance i stay in any group that's getting lynched if i can help it. and we both know that's the case regardless of my alignment, so stop trying to twist shit here

[zMuffinMan]

and i do not fucking believe for one second that you think that was a "defeatist" post rather than "i've sobered up and am no longer just going to use my role for juvenile revenge"

[Wisdom]

really? then why cakez is open to staying in g3? is he scum? no, he understands that town knowing he is town via flip is important and maybe even better than saving himself
is this hard to understand for you?

[zMuffinMan]

i don't think what cakez said is the smart thing to do

it's not what i'd do with his role

but just like with your role,

i have no control over people who want to make suboptimal plays

[Wisdom]

right, now it's a matter of what's optimal

sorry but the only thing im reading is "im not staying here to die because im scum"