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[Ankamius]

Lynching A50*

[Ankamius]

Also the wagon composition thing doesn't work for me because I saw two wagons on slots I thought were town, both of which had town and scum on it.

Titus needed to be lynched yesterday for it to not be bad for the gamestate. I don't think there's time for it without being very sure because this gamestate stalled for a damn reason, and I think it is because scum were in a good spot waiting for one of the town wagons to go through.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

ETL, we're winning A50 because I'm rallying for it like you asked me to.

I'm very convinced A50 is scum and not convinced that Titus is scum.

Ok. I'm honestly fine with either, just would prefer Titus. If I significantly disagreed with A50 I'd be fighting it harder.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Titus needed to be lynched yesterday for it to not be bad for the gamestate. I don't think there's time for it without being very sure because this gamestate stalled for a damn reason

I don't like this argument at all. "Needed to be lynched yesterday". No. It's D2 in a plurality game. There's no urgency to make a lynch happen because it's gonna happen with or without us.

What are you going to say tomorrow? I don't have that much faith in the parity thing, so copping Titus doesn't give me as much utility as Jingle thinks it will. If you think she needed to be lynched yesterday, you're basically telling me she will never be lynched.

If she's scum like I believe her to be, you are deliberately declaring a town loss

on day two

. Stop it.

[Ankamius]

I'm saying she needed to be lynched yesterday because we are on a timer now. I don't really want to go into night kill stuff in case scum hasn't figured out yet, but I don't think we have more than three days to break the game open and PoE the scum out before it becomes a near guaranteed town loss.

[Ankamius]

ETL think of it this way

Assume for a second I'm town

Now hopping over makes sense since... Well, his vote was on himself and he already had a stated scumread on A50. No duh he would switch over when asked, as either alignment.

Titus is also no duh because it makes more sense to in order to assure her survival today. This is true whether she's town or scum

Gork I have a theory on, but don't really want to share right now.

Just know that if the day ends abruptly and I die tonight, Gork is almost confirmed scum. That's all I'll say right now.

This wagon makes sense as a mostly town wagon. Unless you think I'm scum, I'm which case what exactly am I trying to do? As A50 town or A50 scum. Why start that wagon instead of pushing one of two slots that I already had a precedent of scumreading?

[Ankamius]

Plus check my work, all your town reads are scum reading A50 and until Gork's vote, nobody else indicated support on it.

That's huge.

[Punreader]

I'll risk a mobile post in order to record my process right now.

It's a simple numbers game:
11 alive, 3 pun.
I know myself to be town. 3/10, 30% odds of lynching pun.
The hydra is town. 3/9, 33% odds.
Assume Jingle is town. 3/8, 37.5% odds.
Assume Jingle and I combined have an accurate townread on ETL. 3/7, some percentage I don't know without using a calculator.
Assume Jingle can read Mulch and I have a good read from Draynth. 3/6, 50% odds.
Assume Ankamius is town. 3/5, 60% odds of lynching pun.
The remaining names are Nosferatu, Almost50, Gorkington, eddie, and Titus.
The former 3, I townread, but one townread is wrong, possibly two but definitely not all 3.
The latter two, I punread. There is at least one pun in them, if not two.
50-100% odds of lynching pun (eddie or Titus) beats 33-66% odds of lynching pun.

I will respond to other content when I can quote.

[Punreader]

I'll further add: yes, I am at an absolute loss for which of the three remaining are pun. They are literally identical levels of unknown. I am deferring my reads there to others, as they are more likely to pin it down than I am.

In my towngames, I can't name the entire punteam. I CAN name (entire punteam) - 1, which in a mini is 2/3. Those are eddie and Titus. But the last, the third, I won't find.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Why is eddie scum more than the others?

[Ankamius]

Because it's Gork.

[Titus]

Titus needed to be lynched yesterday for it to not be bad for the gamestate. I don't think there's time for it without being very sure because this gamestate stalled for a damn reason

I don't like this argument at all. "Needed to be lynched yesterday". No. It's D2 in a plurality game. There's no urgency to make a lynch happen because it's gonna happen with or without us.

What are you going to say tomorrow? I don't have that much faith in the parity thing, so copping Titus doesn't give me as much utility as Jingle thinks it will. If you think she needed to be lynched yesterday, you're basically telling me she will never be lynched.

If she's scum like I believe her to be, you are deliberately declaring a town loss

on day two

. Stop it.

Why are you acting like the sky is falling rather than intelligently talking to me? You say you cannot engage with me, you ignore me, you base your entire worldview on a premise that is wrong, you refuse to clarify with Jingle the parity cop and how that works.

Are you at this point just tunnelling me because you can or our history than anything here? Normally as either alignment, you aren't this circular or noisy so what gives?

[Gorkington]

if i die tonight its gork
but its also just gork.

interesting theory there ank.
:v

[Titus]

Why is eddie scum more than the others?

Pun is distancing from Eddie. The whole Titus wagon, minus you, scumreads each other but links up to vote me. Even if you think I'm crazy on the hydra to think my wagon is pure is utter nonsense. Your townreads want A50. Let me be copped and let's move on.

[Gorkington]

ank, i think theres a chance that if gork flips scum, then gork might be scum.
what do you think of my theory?
(:

[Ankamius]

if i die tonight its gork
but its also just gork.

interesting theory there ank.
:v

You're not this obtuse, Gork.

[Gorkington]

how hard are you prepared to eat shit when i flip town for calling me stupid for pointing out how dumb your pre-flip NKA is?

[Gorkington]

why even bother pitching something like that when either way im just 100% confirmed scum to you?
is it that you think scumMe would be disincentivized from killing you just because you said that? because it literally wouldnt if i were scum here.

[Ankamius]

No, that's why I said it.

Only thing that doesn't 100% confirm that scenario is the fact that there's one more slot in this game that would 100% kill me if they were scum tonight regardless, so.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

how hard are you prepared to eat shit when i flip town for calling me stupid for pointing out how dumb your pre-flip NKA is?

Hey I've done this.

[Gorkington]

i dont think that your play is as nearly oriented towards gamethrowing as the way ank has approached me all of today.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Titus needed to be lynched yesterday for it to not be bad for the gamestate. I don't think there's time for it without being very sure because this gamestate stalled for a damn reason

I don't like this argument at all. "Needed to be lynched yesterday". No. It's D2 in a plurality game. There's no urgency to make a lynch happen because it's gonna happen with or without us.

What are you going to say tomorrow? I don't have that much faith in the parity thing, so copping Titus doesn't give me as much utility as Jingle thinks it will. If you think she needed to be lynched yesterday, you're basically telling me she will never be lynched.

If she's scum like I believe her to be, you are deliberately declaring a town loss

on day two

. Stop it.

Why are you acting like the sky is falling rather than intelligently talking to me?

I'm.. not? I've been pretty calm here tbh..

You say you cannot engage with me,

Never said that. Quote it.

you ignore me,

I don't? I've been responsive to you most all of the game.

you base your entire worldview on a premise that is wrong,

Which premise?

you refuse to clarify with Jingle the parity cop and how that works.

where the f is he? Cuz he hasn't been here to do that since I started saying I don't care about it.

Are you at this point just tunnelling me because you can or our history than anything here? Normally as either alignment, you aren't this circular or noisy so what gives?

No I just don't really care anymore. I'm bored with this day and want things to move along. I don't feel that my reads can progress any further without a flip. If it's you, that would be preferable because I can see your partners delaying your lynch far too long - like Ank is trying to do - and if it's not then that's still helpful for me but not as helpful.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

i dont think that your play is as nearly oriented towards gamethrowing as the way ank has approached me all of today.

Game throwing?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

i dont think that your play is as nearly oriented towards gamethrowing as the way ank has approached me all of today.

Game throwing?

What is your read on Ank?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

The whole Titus wagon, minus you, scumreads each other but links up to vote me.

This is the most interesting thing you've said all game.