Partition Mafia Scum Topic

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm fine killing eddie or DV by the way. Need to look at their reads

[havingfitz]

Group distro thoughts post #2:

So if we kill tonight (which I think we should) we win if we can get an all town group of 2 or more lynched.

So 2-4-2 or 2-3-3 with only two of the groups containing scum.  And the non-scum group being lynched.

WE CAN WIN THIS TODAY!

If we split things 1-1-1 we have zero chance of winning today.

I think the people under the most heat tomorrow will be Wisdom, zMuff, me (for wtf reasoning), and Koki.

I'm not sure where the consensus stand atm on RMOJ.  I think he would be a frontrunner for suspicion as well.

So Wisdom, zMuff, me (for wtf reasoning), RMOJ and Koki.

That leaves generally viewed as town BuJaber, DV (for wtf reasoning) and perhaps NSG???  Though her absence from the thread could work against her.  I think most consider her town though (for wtf reasoning).

I think a group that contains 2-3 strong scumreads is going to be too tempting for town to lynch and they will be afraid to bite with the game on the line.

I think a group of two strong townreads with one strong scumread will get consideration for the lynch because if say the group has two strong townreads and one scumread....town won't mind lynching the group if they feel confident there is at least one scum in it because the game would not be over (unless of course the strong scumread is in fact town).

I really think a group of Wisdom, DV and Bujaber is going to be too difficult to pass up for the lynch.

Do you guys think a group of two with both of you in it would be lynched?  That would be a lot of lynch wifom that might scare the town out of voting you.  Only thing is...that would leave a group of fitz/RMOJ/NSG which I could see getting lynched.  :/

I still like my initial grouping suggestion I think.

....more thinking required.

[zMuffinMan]

do not put wisdom and buj in the same group

i think youre really reading the undercurrents of the game incorrectly but ill talk about this later

[Kokichi Oma]

Yeah I agree. Me wisdom and buj all need to be in different groups

[havingfitz]

Yeah I agree. Me wisdom and buj all need to be in different groups

Explain.

[zMuffinMan]

here's my initial thoughts on split/kill:

wisdom + NSG
me + kokichi + eddie
buj + REALMAN + fitz

kill DV

reasoning is such:

i expect there to be some push-back against wisdom for the brilliant plan yesterday that led to an all-town lynch

he will try to suggest that i'm scum based on role or that if i'm not scum based on role it's because eddie is scum (WE HAPPEN TO BE IN THE SAME GROUP!!) and he'll also suggest it's possibly kokichi was scum lying anyway so he'll try to push my group (i think i can pass this off as him setting up the group in this way specifically to push this angle)

the thing is... eddie was pretty hard town-reading kokichi yesterday for some reason (not really sure why) so even if he's suspicious of me (his last post about me indicated he thought i was town) i dont think he's suspicious of kokichi. but IF he does get suspicious of me, i think he's gonna use his role to swap kokichi out before lynching our group. he's also suspicious of REAL MAN and maybe buj? i predict a possibility where he swaps buj into the group with wisdom and tries to lynch that too

the reasoning for splitting the D1G2 people (kok+wisdom+buj) is so that town cannot get any clues about who the guilty party is btw

there's more to explain with regards to this choice in splits but think about it anyway

[zMuffinMan]

oh and the DV kill is just because i want there to be "why is eddie still alive?" suspicion floating around plus he's the least likely to think kokichi is town i think?

[zMuffinMan]

we can't kill wisdom and buj for obvious reasons

so that leaves eddie + DV + real man + NSG

eddie i want to leave in because he might use his role in a way that's beneficial to us and there's gonna be suspicion about why he didn't die that alleviates some suspicion on me and such plus wisdom is going to take the bait 100% and go after any group that has me+eddie in it

so that leaves DV + real man + NSG

i _think_ people will have suspicion of real man, so i don't think he's a good kill
NSG is a maybe but her read on kokichi is good for us

thus DV (who thought buj was most town in G2 and who heavily suspects fitz plus may put 2+2 together if given time?)

[Kokichi Oma]

Because from town perspective why would they be grouped together? There is confirmed scum in me wisdom buj.

[Kokichi Oma]

@fitz

[zMuffinMan]

split all three D1G2 into three different groups because that's just common sense; any group with wisdom+buj in it is going to have people questioning "HEY WHY ARE THE TWO PEOPLE THAT COULD BE SCUM IN TEH SAME GROUP? THAT SEEMS TOO EASY"

wisdom would split them all up so he can push suspicion on the other two groups, buj i dunno but it would make sense to do the same

only thing we need to figure out is whether there are problems with any split such that someone could very easily say "i wouldnt split this way because..." (despite it being WIFOM)

[Kokichi Oma]

I think fitz and NSG should be together. That's the only pair I see right now. I'll think more when I'm off work but I'm free to talk now

[zMuffinMan]

hm

there's a lot of different ways to split it but i do think all three D1G2 need to be in different groups whatever the split

if we do fitz+NSG it needs to include one of wisdom+buj+kok imo

[zMuffinMan]

e.g. could do wis+fitz+nsg

kokichi+eddie+realman

me+buj?

dunno

[zMuffinMan]

i guess not killing DV is an option but given the game state and where reads lie this seems not a bad decision

[zMuffinMan]

i guess i dunno where eddie's suspicions are gonna lie but i think wisdom+realman+one (maybe fitz?)

[zMuffinMan]

man DV's plan to swap fitz for buj would have WRECKED us but nobody ever listens to DV lololol

[Kokichi Oma]

wisdom + NSG
me + kokichi + eddie
buj + REALMAN + fitz

Switch nsg and realman and I like it

[Kokichi Oma]

e.g. could do wis+fitz+nsg

kokichi+eddie+realman

me+buj?

dunno

I like this one too actually

[zMuffinMan]

id prefer not having wisdom + realman together because it might breed suspicion that wisdom is scum who swapped realman-scum in yesterday to save him

[Kokichi Oma]

Okay then that 2nd one I like

[Kokichi Oma]

Fitz should do the kill I think

[Kokichi Oma]

If I get lynched you gotta kill wisdom

[zMuffinMan]

do we need to pick a player to submit the kill? seems pointless in a game without night actions

i guess there could be a bomb or something though? doubt it, that would just be stupid

[Kokichi Oma]

I thought we each have 1 night kill each