Mini Normal 2010 - Scientific Mafia [GAME OVER]

[TwoInAMillion]

Seeing as there's 1 scum left, I don't think it's a key thing to note at all/larger wagon stuff isn't worth looking at

This is part of the reason TiaM's 480 pings me. At most, one person pushing him can be Scum, so as soon as there are people, plural, that are pushing you, at least one's gotta be Town. The blanket attempt to discredit the people against him is pretty weird.

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I never said no one voting me was town. I said they were part of the scumpool so of course the natural reaction is going to be to discredit the leaders of the townpool. And there is never any reasoning on my votes. Since the townblock has had a large part in lynching the first two scum it makes more sense to stick with the townblock than to suddenly pay attention to kneejerk reaction votes.

[Archwing]

VC 2.02

BuJaber (0):

Voyc (1):

Hopkirk

Gustavo (0):

Hopkirk (0):

MusicBox(4):

ByronVilla, Dunnstral, TwoInAMillion, BuJaber

TwoInAMillion (2):

MusicBox, TehBrawlGuy

ByronVilla (0):

Srceenplay (0):

TehBrawlGuy (1):

Srceenplay

Dunnstral(1):

Gustavo

Not Voting(1):

Voyc

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

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Mod Notes: Eureka!

Prodding Gustavo.

[Gustavo]

VOTE: tiam

[Hopkirk]

Mb/tiam/voucher are wagons I'll consider today I think

[Hopkirk]

It's only confirmable if we have someone investigate him right? He could fakeclaim commuter but that doesn't mean he doesn't make tonights kill assuming there is one. In that sense I don't see how it's any more confirmable than any other role.

VOTE: tiam let's try this

[TehBrawlGuy]

I'm really not in a position to change my inactivity rn, and I feel like it could drag town down so,

@Mod, please replace me, sorry!

@Mod I think this got missed?

[Archwing]

Oops. I think you're right. Searching for a replacement for Voyc.

[Archwing]

Not Known 15 replaces Voyc.

[Not Known 15]

I really would like to vote brawl myself.

Would you guys believe me if I said I was a neighbor cop?

Are you a neighbor cop with a guilty result on brawl?
If yes then move forward.

[Gustavo]

If he had a guilty this game would be over.

[TwoInAMillion]

The people that are voting me are all that need to be said about my wagon.

[TwoInAMillion]

All in the scumpool except maybe hopkirk

[Gustavo]

If you are town and honestly believe that. Do something about it. Convince others to lynch one of us. But seriously if you are town stop being such a disappointment to me.

[TwoInAMillion]

My vote is already on the best lynch for today. I'm not going to be reactive like scum.

[BuJaber]

I'm here.

Happy with my vote. Would be willing to switch to NK15 but maybe that changes as he posts.

Still believe TIAM and Brawl are town.
Still think Gustavo is more likely town than scum.

Gustavo v TIAM is TvT and distracting.

People just need to make up their minds and vote. Town is ahead so it's natural to see some implosion. We need a flip or two to start getting consensus.

Brawl should be lynched when there's 6 players left if the game isn't over before that.

[Gustavo]

Brawl should be lynched when there's 6 players left if the game isn't over before that.

Why wait? Why not now?

[BuJaber]

Because it'a a policy lynch based on a dead scum's word. Which is like the lowest form of authority there is.
I want to lynch scumreads first.

[Not Known 15]

Because it'a a policy lynch based on a dead scum's word. Which is like the lowest form of authority there is.

Usually, yes.
However, 50% of their statement has already been proven to be true, by the highest from of authority in a game- the mod.
If we do want to lynch them eventually... why not do it now?
A good question, and there is an answer to that.
Because their lynch is pretty much set in stone we might want to ask them if they are a power role or not.
If they are not we should lynch them right away. If they are(or at least claim to be) then Mafia- if they aren't Mafia - might be incentivized to kill them at night.
This is worse than them not claiming and not being lynched, however this does also apply to every other potential lynch with a power role... with the caveat that these people have to fullclaim.

[TehBrawlGuy]

I'm here.

Happy with my vote. Would be willing to switch to NK15 but maybe that changes as he posts.

Still believe TIAM and Brawl are town.

Still think Gustavo is more likely town than scum.

Gustavo v TIAM is TvT and distracting.

People just need to make up their minds and vote. Town is ahead so it's natural to see some implosion. We need a flip or two to start getting consensus.

Brawl should be lynched when there's 6 players left if the game isn't over before that.

Pick one? Like, either I'm town

or

I should be lynched.

If you think I'm Town then it's a bad idea to lynch me.

If you want to lynch me, then you clearly don't think I'm Town.

Because it'a a policy lynch based on a dead scum's word. Which is like the lowest form of authority there is.

Usually, yes.
However, 50% of their statement has already been proven to be true, by the highest from of authority in a game- the mod.
If we do want to lynch them eventually... why not do it now?
A good question, and there is an answer to that.
Because their lynch is pretty much set in stone we might want to ask them if they are a power role or not.
If they are not we should lynch them right away. If they are(or at least claim to be) then Mafia- if they aren't Mafia - might be incentivized to kill them at night.
This is worse than them not claiming and not being lynched, however this does also apply to every other potential lynch with a power role... with the caveat that these people have to fullclaim.

Screen and I are claimed Neighbors, along with the dead Scum!Sho. Given that there's only one Scum left, and we both agree that we're Neighbors, I think our claim is pretty much ironclad in terms of role at least.

The real reason not to lynch me now even if you're set on it is because it lets me talk and solve the game, if you think what I have to say is valuable enough to say. (and when it was me vs. a wall of inactives earlier today, it clearly was) You basically treat me like a suicidal IC until whatever phase you're set on murdering me hits.

[Hopkirk]

Don't like either of NK's posts so far.
Can't really find effort to put in since it seems easy to just win through POE.

[Music Box]

Notes on Tiam:

Tiam's started the game by defending Shoshin in 85.

In 87, he is very quick to disparage Byron's 84. His comment seems an odd reaction and I don't see it coming from town.

I think as long as we keep the townblock of Me, Screen, Bujabar, and Byron together we'll win the game.

Tiam is pushing for himself to be included as a member of the townblock but unless I've missed something I haven't seen any justification for him to do so; so it seems to be just on his say so.

Best course of the action is to stick with the townblock and we will win eventually.

Unless there's scum in the townblock.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not pushing for myself to be included in the townblock. Most of the townblock agrees that I am town.

[Srceenplay]

I keep trying to talk myself out of brawl but I can’t.
I would rather lynch him than BuJaber anyway.

[TwoInAMillion]

Pick one? Like, either I'm town

or

I should be lynched.

If you think I'm Town then it's a bad idea to lynch me.

If you want to lynch me, then you clearly don't think I'm Town.

This is poor logic. Yes, either you are town or should be lynched, but there is a pecking order.

[TehBrawlGuy]

That's not what pecking order is.

If he thinks I'm likely Scum, but wants to lynch less useful or more scummy people first, that's fine. That's what I've been arguing the Town should do today.

If he genuinely thinks I'm Town, PLing me off the WIFOM of a flipped Scum makes no sense.