Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[northsidegal]

And, i don't care how confident you are - don't ignore my questions.

[Wisdom]

you have to wonder what kokichi's plan would have been as scum - fake a guilty on his own group and get himself lynched?

This has been discussed a million times

[Eddie Cane]

by the way, i was thinking about what eddie said about kokichi being confscum due to the role not being public. i really don't know how realistic of an idea it is: for one, (although this might be among the weaker reasons? depends on how much i trust my own read), i really don't feel like this is kokichi's scumgame. for two, especially given that we now know that at least two out of the original four from Day 1's group 3 are town, you have to wonder what kokichi's plan would have been as scum - fake a guilty on his own group and get himself lynched?

if

kokichi is scum i think it almost certainly implies that (at least) one of the swapping roles is scum and the entire thing was planned out from the start, although that seems exceedingly unlikely to me. occam's razor still seems to point towards kokichi being town, so i have to wonder if i should reconsider my eddie read.

or it spews bujaber as town and a little wisdom

?

[Wisdom]

And, i don't care how confident you are - don't ignore my questions.

I am scum, i can do whatever i want. You won't vote me anyway.

[Wisdom]

maybe nsg is scum

Yeah better start bussing now

[northsidegal]

you have to wonder what kokichi's plan would have been as scum - fake a guilty on his own group and get himself lynched?

This has been discussed a million times

quote it for me?

by the way, i was thinking about what eddie said about kokichi being confscum due to the role not being public. i really don't know how realistic of an idea it is: for one, (although this might be among the weaker reasons? depends on how much i trust my own read), i really don't feel like this is kokichi's scumgame. for two, especially given that we now know that at least two out of the original four from Day 1's group 3 are town, you have to wonder what kokichi's plan would have been as scum - fake a guilty on his own group and get himself lynched?

if

kokichi is scum i think it almost certainly implies that (at least) one of the swapping roles is scum and the entire thing was planned out from the start, although that seems exceedingly unlikely to me. occam's razor still seems to point towards kokichi being town, so i have to wonder if i should reconsider my eddie read.

or it spews bujaber as town and a little wisdom

?

explain? not sure what you mean.

And, i don't care how confident you are - don't ignore my questions.

I am scum, i can do whatever i want. You won't vote me anyway.

-shrug-

whatever, i guess i can just be satisfied with you looking like an idiot after flips. (that's still assuming you're town because i really don't see what you'd be accomplishing doing this as scum, outside of maybe just bluffing to look towny and hoping that nobody calls you on it)

[Wisdom]

Yep, thats what im hoping
Hope its working

[northsidegal]

well, this is fun.

[zMuffinMan]

all are bold in thread, it is very unlikely there'd be another that is done privately

this isn't a good reason to think kokichi is scum, IMO - a sensor-type role in this setup is one i wouldn't expect to be public if it exists and i don't think the existence of a non-public role is implausible

that said, i've been thinking about it and i think a more compelling reason to think kokichi is scum is that a sensor role seems pretty broken in this setup given the amount of group-manipulation roles in play (e.g. say kokichi is town and scum did a 3-0-0 split D1 and kokichi used his role on one of the town groups; that would pretty much doom scum from the get-go)

btw, if you think kokichi's role is the odd one out here for this reason, why didn't this bother you D1?

[zMuffinMan]

I wasn't aware of how many PRs we had at the time.

eh, maybe this kind of answers my question, kinda

but you were at least aware of 4 of them (including your own) as of 1353 so i'm not sure why DV's role was the straw that broke the camel's back for you

[zMuffinMan]

i really don't feel like this is kokichi's scumgame

can you respond to 1853?

[northsidegal]

i really don't feel like this is kokichi's scumgame

can you respond to 1853?

a lack of utterly horrible reasoning / opportunism in voting. i also think that he has just a different style when posting when he's scum as compared to when he's town, so as the game went on i felt more comfortable with the read.

[Eddie Cane]

why didn't this bother you D1?

because we were lynching him d1

[Eddie Cane]

I wasn't aware of how many PRs we had at the time.

eh, maybe this kind of answers my question, kinda

but you were at least aware of 4 of them (including your own) as of 1353 so i'm not sure why DV's role was the straw that broke the camel's back for you

and I was right about cakez kappa

I did push his role as against the spirit of the setup and unlikely, remember? dramonic and I had a full sarcastic discussion about it. I then resided myself to the fact he was getting lynched. also, dvs is particularly rleevant becusse the rest of the roles are group manipulation and his... isnt, though the way its worded forces it to be which by the way makes kokichi role fake yet again

[zMuffinMan]

I did push his role as against the spirit of the setup and unlikely, remember? dramonic and I had a full sarcastic discussion about it

521? but you were saying you were confident kokichi was town after that

can't find the discussion with dram you're talking about

[Kokichi Oma]

Eddie's posts are garbage, he could be scum. No way in hell he actually thinks a sensor would be posted by mod, that would confirm me and the whole group possibly as town breaking the game.

[Kokichi Oma]

sadly lynching my group is end game, so we need to lynch in 1 and 2. Anyone considering voting 3 is a scumclaim.

[Kokichi Oma]

Wisdom, why wouldn't you listen to anyone when you did the switch yesterday.

[northsidegal]

sadly lynching my group is end game, so we need to lynch in 1 and 2. Anyone considering voting 3 is a scumclaim.

how?

[Eddie Cane]

Eddie's posts are garbage, he could be scum. No way in hell he actually thinks a sensor would be posted by mod, that would confirm me and the whole group possibly as town breaking the game.

every role is in thread except yours

every role is group related (including the doc)...except yours

[Kokichi Oma]

because I think it's 1 1 1 now. based on how everyone is tiptoeing. Wisdom/eddie/idk in my group. I think wisdom and eddie are doing theater.

[Eddie Cane]

I did push his role as against the spirit of the setup and unlikely, remember? dramonic and I had a full sarcastic discussion about it

521? but you were saying you were confident kokichi was town after that

can't find the discussion with dram you're talking about

just went over this with wis my guy

[Eddie Cane]

because I think it's 1 1 1 now. based on how everyone is tiptoeing. Wisdom/eddie/idk in my group. I think wisdom and eddie are doing theater.

I appreciate you spewing me as town though friend

[Kokichi Oma]

Eddie's posts are garbage, he could be scum. No way in hell he actually thinks a sensor would be posted by mod, that would confirm me and the whole group possibly as town breaking the game.

every role is in thread except yours

every role is group related (including the doc)...except yours

No shit. Do you want the mod to go.

"Sensor activated! All 5 people in group 1 are town!"

And then I would be cleared, that's a possibility of 6+ cleared people on day 1. If scum did a gambit and put all in 1 group day 1 and other groups all town. Your logic is so shit, so you have to be mafia.

[Kokichi Oma]

NSG you still think 2 scum in my group?