Echo Bay Grits SEO [game over]

Theta Alpine · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 6:45 am

i already considered that

they would still be able to auto-win tomorrow with 4 people
they would have a night kill tonight and then would be able to shoot one of the other two remaining people the next day and just take the shot from the other person
and then win at night

StefanB · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 7:23 am

In post 1575, Theta Alpine wrote:i already considered that

they would still be able to auto-win tomorrow with 4 people
they would have a night kill tonight and then would be able to shoot one of the other two remaining people the next day and just take the shot from the other person
and then win at night

Just wait, WHAT!!! Win at night?
I am not as great at autowinstrategys, but can you tell me this one again slowly, because that looks not like a winstrategy for town.
SO EXPLAIN BEFORE I WANT YOU DEAD!

Theta Alpine · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 7:28 am

4 people left at the end of today [assuming one is an sk with one bp shot left and everyone else is town]
day ends from deadline or abstain shots
sk shoots a town that night
day start
sk shoots one of the remaining town
sk is shot by the last town [survives due to bp shot]
day ends due to no shots remaining
sk shoots last town at night

Theta Alpine · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 7:30 am

5 people left at the end of today [assuming one is an sk with one bp shot left and everyone else is town]
day ends from deadline or abstain shots
sk shoots a town that night
day start
4 person lylo [essentially]

StefanB · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 7:33 am

So we definitly need 5 people alive, if we stop shooting and go to night and are afraid of the SK.

Theta Alpine · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 7:34 am

In post 1576, StefanB wrote:
In post 1575, Theta Alpine wrote:i already considered that

they would still be able to auto-win tomorrow with 4 people
they would have a night kill tonight and then would be able to shoot one of the other two remaining people the next day and just take the shot from the other person
and then win at night
Just wait, WHAT!!! Win at night?
I am not as great at autowinstrategys, but can you tell me this one again slowly, because that looks not like a winstrategy for town.
SO EXPLAIN BEFORE I WANT YOU DEAD!

yeah i am looking for any auto win strategy that scum could use so that we can avoid them
what i have proposed is the closest i can get for town so far

StefanB · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 7:39 am

Was just paranoid, that you are posting winstrategys for scum, but since that would be a winstrategy to a potential SK I should have been more relaxed.

ISO · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 9:22 am

In post 1525, Vaxkiller wrote:SO here is how I see it.

There were 3
scum
bad factions and now there are 2

Flips
2 grits goons plus a grit traitor 1 shot BP
1 munitions goon
???

So with 1 team completely wiped (I can only assume so. I cant imagine a 4 person scum team with 3 factions with what we have left... unless the rest of you are all scum, which is mind boggling) This gives us a good idea of what to expect with the other scum teams.

With 11 people alive, if the other teams follow the same exact setup, it means we would have 5 scum left (seems unlikely)

Im thinking the munitions scum team may consist of a goon + Strongman (and only be 2 ppl)
And the third team could be the same OR consist of 2 goons and a traitor.

I saw the SK theory and Im not sure waht to think about it at the moment. Is a strongman so good in this game where it would be balanced as a 1 person negative faction?

In post 1557, Vaxkiller wrote:Yesterday ico didnt want to lynch him, but since he flipped grits, and grits team HAS to be no more. Now I dont know.

eyes emoji

ISO · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 9:23 am

I worked out
who the SK is

will not be outing until I'm satisfied group scum are dead

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:30 am

I mean why wait?

ISO · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:31 am

they have a vested interest in eliminating group scum and presumably add +1 nightkill

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:32 am

Holy hell that was quick!

ISO · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:34 am

always watching...
scary black beady eyes...

ISO · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:35 am

vaxy something you said pinged me as Munitions!scummy. I was surprised because you've been really towny so far.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:40 am

Oh yeah? Whats that?

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:41 am

I mean technically speaking I could be munitions or the third faction as well.

ISO · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:42 am

In post 1525, Vaxkiller wrote:SO here is how I see it.

There were 3
scum
bad factions and now there are 2

Flips
2 grits goons plus a grit traitor 1 shot BP
1 munitions goon
???

So with 1 team completely wiped (I can only assume so. I cant imagine a 4 person scum team with 3 factions with what we have left... unless the rest of you are all scum, which is mind boggling) This gives us a good idea of what to expect with the other scum teams.

With 11 people alive, if the other teams follow the same exact setup, it means we would have 5 scum left (seems unlikely)

Im thinking the munitions scum team may consist of a goon + Strongman (and only be 2 ppl)
And the third team could be the same OR consist of 2 goons and a traitor.

I saw the SK theory and Im not sure waht to think about it at the moment. Is a strongman so good in this game where it would be balanced as a 1 person negative faction?

ah just felt like TMI on team numbers, pretty minor

ISO · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:42 am

just a formality ig
you're officially down to my second rung of townies

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:46 am

I put it out there so someone could look at my theory and correct it as needed, because i have no idea what setup balance is. Id like to know how many shots we get today before we vote to end and try for one more day tomorrow, but im not sure if that works either. If it's lylo tomorrow, scum/sk/whoever can just start shooting and win.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:48 am

I still don't like how eager you were with taht shot.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:50 am

I'm going to commune with my dead brethren. Shout loud my dead comrades!

ISO · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:54 am

yeah you don't have to like how eager I was
I think the current gamestate makes it extremely evident that scum wins if we don't have anything stirring us up
this is super stagnant, no one is gonna catch scumfucks like this

we have a maximum of 9 shots left d2.
mechanically shooting me is great but

contextually shooting me is a scum claim.

1. groupscum have to kill me to remove SK WIFOM
2. SK has to kill me because I'll out who they are d3

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 2:05 am

I'm thinking we might need to kill you today.

ISO · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 2:13 am

I die tonight 100% tho

StefanB · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2018 2:18 am

Great position for you Duckling.

I feel okay with Vaxkiller, some of the speculation have been strange, but he is okay.
Sorry Gamma I like you personally but I feel better about Vax this game.
At the moment there are 4 thinks stopping the scum, from winning.
1. The SK/ 3rd scumteam, but I would say SK.
2. The don't know who their traitor is.
3. Can they be completly sure that Grits is dead?
4. Still the numbers.

scumteams have either 4 or 3 member(balance), at last one of them is unknown, so Munition has not won. (That is what I get from the flipps)

Killing the worst because a priority if we reduced groupscum more, but no reason to let him not talk before.
(Even if you believe The Worst is the SK he is as long as we have shoots left, not a danger)