Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[ofrhz]

It felt like desperation to me. He wanted to act as if the vote didn't bother him and possibly change ruru's mind by acting as if he approved of the logic behind it.

What was desperate about it? Like what part of it seemed like I was acting versus actually not caring about the vote

[ofrhz]

Okay, BlackStar was not lying about not reading the thread

what makes you say this? i don't think the worst is so obviously town as to warrant this - in fact, i think blackstar is probably townier.

ruru is probably town. I’ve played two games with her, one scum and one town, and in her scumgame, she was passive (in her gameplay), like I don’t think scum!ruru would vote me in big text like she just did. Her posts were also stiff in tone in contrast to her RVS entrance. It’s occurred to me that she could have fabricated her game entrance (a few other people were in the same Newbie 1859 game where ruru was scum, so it’d be extremely beneficial for scum!ruru to do this) but I don’t think it’s likely given the ad hoc nature of the content

Also I don't understand why being aggressive would make him town. It seems like a weird reason to town read someone

He should have read my post considering he's the one who asked for my reads

[ofrhz]

VOTE: Blackstar

[ofrhz]

Okay, BlackStar was not lying about not reading the thread

what makes you say this? i don't think the worst is so obviously town as to warrant this - in fact, i think blackstar is probably townier.

what's towny about blackstar?

[Zoronos]

I feel like I should dump my thoughts from my discussion with Pintu, but they’re still a bit jumbly. So, bear with me.

I think Pintu is seeing the evidence completely differently than I am. At first I wanted to call that scummy, but if I had one word to describe our discussion, that word would be “reasonable”. He never got incensed or frustrated, or called me scummy for leaning on him, he just calmly explained his position and why he disagreed with me.
I don’t really like his predicates, but he was very insist on their validity, and he took those predicates to a reasonable place. I can see how he got from A to B, even if I disagree with A. He didn’t bow or give an inch in his discussion, while remaining willing to engage it.

My gut says that’s towny but I struggle to clearly explain why or specifically what parts of our discussion made me feel towny on him. Maybe that he’s playing highly cooperatively?

Sorry for the mess, but that’s where I ended up. I wish I could have ended up at a ‘yeah, got the scum!, but that would be stretching for a conclusion I wanted instead of the conclusion I think the evidence points towards. I think my initial scum lean was wrong.

[BlackStar]

Okay, BlackStar was not lying about not reading the thread

what makes you say this? i don't think the worst is so obviously town as to warrant this - in fact, i think blackstar is probably townier.

ruru is probably town. I’ve played two games with her, one scum and one town, and in her scumgame, she was passive (in her gameplay), like I don’t think scum!ruru would vote me in big text like she just did. Her posts were also stiff in tone in contrast to her RVS entrance. It’s occurred to me that she could have fabricated her game entrance (a few other people were in the same Newbie 1859 game where ruru was scum, so it’d be extremely beneficial for scum!ruru to do this) but I don’t think it’s likely given the ad hoc nature of the content

Also I don't understand why being aggressive would make him town. It seems like a weird reason to town read someone

He should have read my post considering he's the one who asked for my reads

I did read your post. I just didn't like how much your trust your meta read

VOTE: Blackstar

This is a gross vote

[BlackStar]

It felt like desperation to me. He wanted to act as if the vote didn't bother him and possibly change ruru's mind by acting as if he approved of the logic behind it.

What was desperate about it? Like what part of it seemed like I was acting versus actually not caring about the vote

"Ruru voted for me. She's probably town, guys!"
feels different from
"I can understand why Ruru scumreads me. If I was in their shoes I probably would too. I don't like the vote but I see where they're coming from. I think I town read Ruru."

[Almost50]

Sharing is Caring D1 VC #5

ofrhz (3): ruru, Mathdino, northsidegal,
BlackStar (3): jjh927, the worst, ofrhz,
the worst (2): HitAlt, BlackStar,
Zoronos (1): davesaz,
Mathdino (1): pinturicchio,

Not Voting: HeWhoSwims, Something_Smart, Zoronos,

Note: I'm dead certain I got all the scum team pegged already. Reason: Welp, I'm the mod.

[northsidegal]

how does the worst have more global posts than me????

[Zoronos]

VOTE: Blackstar

This is a gross vote

Can you explain this?
Rather, the adjective 'gross' is not what I'd expect. Scummy? Misinformed? Incongruous? Doesn't fit his other reads?

[Zoronos]

Orfcz+duck are scum btw.
More certain of the duck.

VOTE: the worse

you're presented with this opportunity
you pick me over ofrhz. I don't think this was just for the wagon. I genuinely think you have me pinned for a mislynch and jumped on board out of sheer opportunism.

So, the_worst, I was reading back and thinking about Blackstar and Ofrhz, and I noticed this (more specifically, I was reading the combined Ofhrz+Blackstar ISO-thingy-is-there-a-name-for-that-where-you-see-two-people-but-nothing-else?)

What's your read on Ofrhz? Curious how that was informing your response here.
I don't have a good read yet on HitAlt, Blackstar, or Ofrhz and I'm trying to pick apart this current tangle that seems to involve the three of them plus you.

[the worst]

swinngung town a little on of rhz

[Zoronos]

So you think both of HitAlt's reads are bad then I presume (unless you'd like to claim scum).
Legit but inaccurate, or evil scum trying for mislynches?

[the worst]

First impression says bad. I need to talk through them with Hit.

[davesaz]

Oh look, it went from nothing useful happening to 7 pages behind. I'm at the bottom of 8 which has been more interesting than 7 was.

[davesaz]

So for real, tell me about dave? Is he lurking, active lurking, is this normal/abnormal coming from him, should we worry or is too early to know?

Burning the candle at both ends in a fashion -- 6am conference calls some days, worked a post graduation party for the kiddos till past midnight last night.

[jjh927]

Falling behind a bit due to mafia-related circumstances. Should be more active in about 24 hours.

[BlackStar]

VOTE: Blackstar

This is a gross vote

Can you explain this?
Rather, the adjective 'gross' is not what I'd expect. Scummy? Misinformed? Incongruous? Doesn't fit his other reads?

Gross= scummy as hell. I scum read him more than the worst at this point

VOTE: ohfrz

[ruru]

This game's awful

[the worst]

who got blackstar meta

[the worst]

TIL he is the omgus king, I have been DETHRONED

[ruru]

I think tw knows what I'm talking about

[the worst]

flipping coin
heads = play along and smile
tails = admit i have no idea

.... fuck it was tails

[the worst]

sorry ruru, I'm not sure D:

[ruru]

Like we're 15 pages in and I just kinda feel like nothing happened and I'm bored

Like I need RC flaming me or something so I can get into the game more

I feel like you were experiencing this too at least a few pages ago