Echo Bay Grits SEO [game over]

[Davsto]

*when you're claimed BP

[Davsto]

too many acronyms smh

[Ausuka]

I mean yeah but iirc Theta already used her shot and like pushing NM as scum isn't going to lead to his survival. I think that scum were just 100% willing to bus NM.

pretty sure optimal Grits strat is to go for SK? like I think both town and grits kinda rely on a strategy where we get both SK and munitions dead and it's much easier to do the latter in daytime.

anyway we've probably lost this already, sooooo

[the worst]

I mean that's what prompted my entire thing about maybe Davsto being a genius after all. We were handing out trs like candy d1 and then shooting people for really minorly scummy things.

Check more of ganski's reads and others' reads around the time, in context I don't find her Theta read any more forced than most of our D1 TRs


pedit: I'm not SK

[Ausuka]

If you can point to a townie TRing someone for something like "they gave their townreads" then I'll admit I was wrong.

[the worst]

I'm a bit sleepy to pore through all of d1 but my memory of our reads is pretty cringey.

[light_ganski]

I neither understand how my theta read is described as forced or false. It is how I was thinking at that moment and I stand by it

I also thought taly was obvtown and you're not accusing me of being grits for it

[Davsto]

pedit: I'm not SK

Yeah I got a little sidetracked at the end with my theory on who'd be aiming for who that I got distracted from the main point of you

But anyway I doubt grits is going for you unless they have strongman since it's largely wasting a night shot.

What was your reasoning for thinking people would NK you again? It was something about softing SK and so scum would have to shoot you because they want SK gone and it could be you, right?

[Ausuka]

I would definitely argue that your Theta read looks a lot more forced than your Taly read.

I should probably step back from the thread. who does everyone else think scum is?

[the worst]

pedit: I'm not SK

Yeah I got a little sidetracked at the end with my theory on who'd be aiming for who that I got distracted from the main point of you

But anyway I doubt grits is going for you unless they have strongman since it's largely wasting a night shot.

What was your reasoning for thinking people would NK you again? It was something about softing SK and so scum would have to shoot you because they want SK gone and it could be you, right?

Yeah. I also have a really strong theory on who the actual SK is but I'd rather they win than groupscum so won't out it unless it looks like we could have a town win today


So SK is probs on me too

[Davsto]

The issue then is that SK is probably strongman so if scum think the SK is gunning for you then they definitely won't bother

It's a bit wifomy overall so I don't disagree with your strategy but I wouldn't bank on every shot being for you. Probably SK and maybe Munitions (mostly if they have strongman) but I wouldn't expect Grits to as munitions is their larger enemy.

[the worst]

Sure. On the balance of probabilities I'm eating 1-2 NKs all the same.

[Gammagooey]

godamn you guys are awake early on a sat. morning

someone asked me why I thought theta was not scum with not_mafia early game - he pushed on not mafia pretty hard before and after his hebi shot when I was going through it for my first readslist and thought that wouldn't come from someone that was scum with him. Near the end of d1 I reread it and saw that it was literally a page between him saying he would shoot not_mafia if it weren't for prankers and then shooting hebi and then immediately going back to saying that N_M should die and the hebi shenanigans made that situation look a lot more like an excuse to use his shot on someone that wasn't N_M than a genuine scumread on N_M.

I think I want vax dead next? Him asking me about the worst and me asking him about whether he thinks theta looked scummier than him literally two minutes later being met with silence, and him being the entirety of the push to kill hebi that theta used to excuse not shooting N_M feels really bad. If there aren't more shots before lateish tonight I'll iso him and prob ausuka to get a better idea of their play though.

[Gammagooey]

oh also why are people considering hunting for grits scum, it's real dumb at this point

there's likely a single one left, if any at all (personally I'd lean towards none left), that wants to hit munitions scum. So if it exists it's basically a worse SK, and it might not even exist.

like ???

[light_ganski]

someone asked me why I thought theta was not scum with not_mafia early game - he pushed on not mafia pretty hard before and after his hebi shot when I was going through it for my first readslist and thought that wouldn't come from someone that was scum with him. Near the end of d1 I reread it and saw that it was literally a page between him saying he would shoot not_mafia if it weren't for prankers and then shooting hebi and then immediately going back to saying that N_M should die and the hebi shenanigans made that situation look a lot more like an excuse to use his shot on someone that wasn't N_M than a genuine scumread on N_M.

This is basically the point I was trying to make about theta and NM in better words, if you're reading this and your name is ausuka

My NM read was genuine as 24 karat gold and that's why I bloody shot him rather than pussyfooting round his scummy self like his partner did

[Gammagooey]

Near the end of d1 I reread it and saw that it was literally a page between him saying he would shoot not_mafia if it weren't for prankers and then shooting hebi and then immediately going back to saying that N_M should die and the hebi shenanigans made that situation look a lot more like an excuse to use his shot on someone that wasn't N_M than a genuine scumread on N_M.

tho actually it was prob sometime early today that i reread that part and not near the end of d1? end of d1 i still wanted dav and taly dead and wasn't focusing on much else given how few shots there were left
memory's hard

[StefanB]

Hello weren't we massclaiming when I left?
Whose turn is it?
I more skimmed, Assukas scumread is interesting, we have to shoot Munitionscum, if one or two of them are death you can shoot me, after I have done my shoot hopfully on Munition or the SK, that the worst names.
Hopfully the SKshoots ends the game. This is my plan at the moment.

[light_ganski]

It's vax's turn

[light_ganski]

At this point I feel like we've lost though. Ausuka's lost down a blind tunnel at me and at this point I barely have the effort to go on

I'll list my munitions read rn for clarity:

{ganski, worst, lovebird}
{ausuka, gamma} (these are only

almost

certainly not as opposed to definitely not)
-----
{stefan}
{davsto}
{vaxkiller}

Munitions is >98% in the last 3

Feel like grits is gone but if they aren't last is prob stefan

SK is still prob worst

[Ausuka]

I'm not tunnelling? I basically only started posting reads 12 hours ago...

[StefanB]

At this point I feel like we've lost though. Ausuka's lost down a blind tunnel at me and at this point I barely have the effort to go on

I'll list my munitions read rn for clarity:

{ganski, worst, lovebird}
{ausuka, gamma} (these are only

almost

certainly not as opposed to definitely not)
-----
{stefan}
{davsto}
{vaxkiller}

Munitions is >98% in the last 3

Feel like grits is gone but if they aren't last is prob stefan

SK is still prob worst

So you feel that Theta didn't try to get one of her buddys in the last 4? Vaxkiller is on her killlist, davsto claimed BP which screams if scum than traitor.
I mean that for me screams Gansky or Gamma is Munitionscum.

[light_ganski]

Who were theta's last 4? I can't remember reading that

[light_ganski]

Oh me worst davsto gamma

I have no clue then. Will have to reconsider gamma. Don't expect it anytime soon though

[xyzzy]

living players and unused shots

the following players are still alive: the worst, Ausuka, Davsto, Vaxkiller, Lovebird, StefanB, light_ganski, Gammagooey

the following players have not used their shot for day 2: Ausuka, Vaxkiller, StefanB

mod notes: there will be no confirmation that any faction has been eliminated until the game is over. traitors do not know the identities of the rest of their faction.

[Ausuka]

Hmm. I sure hope grits is dead because that makes this game a lot easier if so.