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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 12:46 pm

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In post 489, Jodaxq wrote:
In post 429, havingfitz wrote:Garuga should not have claimed. Even though I was pushing his wagon it wasn't getting a lot of support so I was leaving it as well. Don't get his early (L-4?) claim.

Still like my vote from eod yesterday.

VOTE: Shoshin

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I really don't like this. It's very active lurker-like.

Why vote now instead of waiting until you come back?
I agree, this is a Red Flag to me.
Why/How you gonna vote park this early on Day 2, after we had a quick hammer Day 1?
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 12:53 pm

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I would like to see more from Texcat and Gustavo.

I like the posts Bacy and Jodax have made and most of the posts BBT had made today.

I would support an Invisiblity lynch, I haven't like that slot from the get go tbh.
I woulnd't argue against a Mumble lynch either. Mumble is always a difficult read for me.

I think Shoshin is town fwiw. I don't like that wagon at all. HF i'm still null on. Really disliked the vote park.
It seemed very advantageous to me.
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 1:23 pm

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VOTE: Invisibility

I'm not sure I'm 100% happy with Shoshin's response to my question, expected something somewhat different.
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 2:04 pm

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In post 526, Havo wrote:I would like to see more from Texcat and Gustavo.
What specifically do you need from me?
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 2:33 pm

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I think I like a BBT/Invisibility scumteam right now.

Gonna reread everything tomorrow at work before deciding what lynch to push.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 2:36 pm

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Could be BBT/Mumbles too. I think it's clear based on today that BBT is bussing one of them.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 528, Gustavo wrote:
In post 526, Havo wrote:I would like to see more from Texcat and Gustavo.
What specifically do you need from me?
How do you see the game at this point?

Any strong reads?

Thoughts on Invisibility.
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 8:54 pm

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In post 529, JarJarDrinks wrote:I think I like a BBT/Invisibility scumteam right now.

Gonna reread everything tomorrow at work before deciding what lynch to push.
Looking forward to seeing your explanations for those random thoughts JJD.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 8:58 pm

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Prodding Mumble.
wiki | modded | Newbie NewD3 Stats | scripts

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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2018 10:34 pm

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In post 531, Havo wrote:
In post 528, Gustavo wrote:
In post 526, Havo wrote:I would like to see more from Texcat and Gustavo.
What specifically do you need from me?
How do you see the game at this point?

Any strong reads?

Thoughts on Invisibility.
Let me catch up tomorrow or Wednesday and I’ll have some thoughts
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:41 am

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In post 529, JarJarDrinks wrote:I think I like a BBT/Invisibility scumteam right now.

Gonna reread everything tomorrow at work before deciding what lynch to push.
Like, I could see scum!BBT based on his end of day play yesterday (and the start of today), but why are you doing it off associatives at this point? Your going to have to give something more than you think he's bussing.
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:41 am

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In post 526, Havo wrote:I think Shoshin is town fwiw.
Why?
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:42 am

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In post 524, Havo wrote:
In post 436, Shoshin wrote:Mumble, before I answer any more of your questions, why don't you tell us your thoughts on the game?
Good luck with that.
Get bent.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:45 am

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In post 522, Havo wrote:
In post 447, Mumble wrote:
In post 445, Invisibility wrote:
In post 443, Shoshin wrote:Invisibility, join me on Mumble!
you were literally voting me a few posts ago what
While pushing Fitz as scum.
I really dislike this, I push people all the time while voting someone else. And I hate when people tell me how to use my vote. Just because I'm voting someone doesn't even mean I think they're scum, it's usually to see their reaction to being voted. It helps me read them, and there's a lot of times I'll think someone else is scummier but I want to get the reaction from my vote before I move it.

And I'm not saying this is what Shoshin was doing, but I can see myself doing it pretty easy. I just don't like the push from Mumble.
You don't ever like anything that I do in any game whatsoever.

What you are saying is you don't like what I was pushing because you act a certain way, but Shoshin may or may not act that way meaning what I pushed could be valid, but you still don't like it because of the way you play. Yeah...ok.

It's bad that he was pushing Invis/Me/Fitz and then immediately asking Invis to get on my wagon.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:46 am

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In post 511, Shoshin wrote:But Mumble feels attacked? And then votes Garuga? I'm having trouble picturing a townie interpret 311 as an attack.
Then read to see I thought the post was directed at me, not Invis, and then stop trying to shade me for made up reasons.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:47 am

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In post 509, Shoshin wrote:It's a fine lynch but I'm sticking with Mumble for the moment. Why do you prefer Invisibility?
So both Invis and I are scum?
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:50 am

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Jodaxq can be town.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:50 am

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Hope everyone (in the US) had a good Memorial Day. Back later.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:03 am

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In post 481, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 480, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:No, no need to. Mumble looked bad regardless.
Why did Mumbles look bad?
Still looking for an answer here
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:12 am

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In post 535, Mumble wrote:
In post 529, JarJarDrinks wrote:I think I like a BBT/Invisibility scumteam right now.

Gonna reread everything tomorrow at work before deciding what lynch to push.
Like, I could see scum!BBT based on his end of day play yesterday (and the start of today), but why are you doing it off associatives at this point? Your going to have to give something more than you think he's bussing.
Do not fear. As I said I'm gonna reread stuff and if I decide BBT is the best lynch I will surely post more reasoning.


In the meantime people, just look at BBTs posts today and tell me if he doesn't seem more concerned with how his vote looks than anything else?

Why does he think mumbles or invisibility is scum? Has he said why yet?
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:08 am

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JJD, what's your read on Mumble?
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:33 am

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In post 545, Shoshin wrote:JJD, what's your read on Mumble?
As I said, it's possible that BBT is bussing but Invisibility seems more likely.

Apart from that I think I lean town.
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:42 am

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In post 341, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 317, Mumble wrote:I think my vote is better served here for the moment.

VOTE: TheRampage
Can we lynch Mumble after Rampage/Invisibility?
Here's BBT throwing shade on Mumbles for voting rampage.

Next post:
In post 342, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:OK, I'm caught up.

Will lynch any of Rampage, Invisibility, Mumble.

VOTE: Rampage
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:44 am

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Weekend catch up from Shoshin's 455 which I addressed in my posts yesterday.

OK...I like Shoshin's post 311. I agree with most of it. The part not included in the "most of it" is whether I think Mumbles is scum. I need to ISO Shoshin and Mumble I think. And Invisibility.

wrt Mumbles' , one of the things I find suspect of Shoshin is what I see as an inconsistency on who they suspect vs who they are voting. Though iirc I might have thought the same thing wrt Garuga. I need to go back and check that.

@Jodaxq...wrt , how is my first post of today active lurkerish? I am v/LA every weekend so that can't be it. And why wait till I get back? I was voting Shoshin to end D1.

@Jodaxq...wrt , conspiracy theorists could posit that INvisibility asked BBT about Shoshin because BBT had just voted Mumbles (two who Shoshin seems to think have some connection).

wrt Shoshin's ...I agree...Garuga's post 311 to Mumble does not seem like an attack (or shading).

wrt BBT's ...those are some sh*t reasons to vote Rampage. All of them pretty bare other than JJD's vote.

wrt Havo's , V/LA for me means I have better things to do than mafia so probably not going to do much analyzing of game content. It doesn't mean I won't pop in a few times over the weekend (as I did in this game) and if necessary vote or unvote. I didn't want a speedy end to D1 and I'm don't D2. Doesn't mean I won't vote if I see fit to.

@JJD wrt , why do you suspect BBT (independent of his suspicions towards Inv and Mumbles if you could)? (This question is echoed a few posts later by Mumble).

Reads as of this point (copied and edited as necessary from previous reads):

Gustavo - town.
JarJarDrinks - Lean town.
Havo - Hasn't posted much but what they have posted hasn't set off any alarms. Town.
Jodaxq- Not as big a fan of her posts as some who are town reading her but it might be a playstyle thing. Lean town.
texcat- null/suspect. Not too active and what little posting they have done I still need to digest.
BlueBloodedToffee -
pending ISO 5

Shoshin -
pending ISO 1

Mumble -
pending ISO 2

Invisibility - liked earlier off the cuff...more they have posted the less I like. Null....could be scum. -
pending ISO 3

bacy - not a fan...things they have said have struck me as odd or suspect. Lean scum. -
pending ISO 4

TheRampage - The more I've read the less I like. Could be scum. Not opposed to their lynch.

Garuga - not a fan but claim gets a bye for now. Lean town.


Basically there is an evolving group that feels town to me and an evolving group that I'm not sure about. Consider the ones
pending ISO
the ones I think contain scum. 3 would be nice. 2 I could live with. 1 or less and f* me.

No vote until I get a few of the ISO's done.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:48 am

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In post 548, havingfitz wrote:Gustavo - town.
Explain this please. I’ve been really busy irl and haven’t posted as much as I could so I’m kind of skeptical why anyone would town read me. Don’t get me wrong, I definitely appreciate it just don’t understand it.
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