Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[the worst]

I have never played in a game with ruru.
The MD games that ruru has seen are not the same MD games that I have seen.
The sets are disjoint, there is no comparison between them.
And yes, I would be hugely surprised if MD played every scum game the same way. Multiple metas are a given, else he'd get lynched every time as scum. This is mafia 101...

Actually I like this a lot. Feels more like town pushing theories than scum pushing BS.

[the worst]

Which connection exactly

The scum ducky --> scum Zoro one. Which I just mentioned

Fairo, blonde moment

[the worst]

I'm pretty comfortable leaving Dave on null, I think he and Ruru need to talk more.

[Zoronos]

Ruru just like... is town imo? That vote was the one that pinged me harder than the Math vote.

Either way that's 2x vote's on people who would be stupid as shit to actually wagon. From memory Ruru defended Math when Dave voted him. his vote on Ruru might have been tinged with disdain from the math vote ig. I have not been paying stacks of attention to most of Dave's posts lemme have a read

I attacked the MD case a lot harder than ruru did, also, he started in on ruru before he voted MD. Daveasz at the end of our discussion hinting he had a town read on me, but didn't really firmly commit to that stance.

His vote on MD was in 446, his question to ruru about ofrhz was in 435. He didn't vote her until 528, but that was a day later and after I had been rather vociferously arguing with him about his usage of meta.
If I presume that causes precede effects, that wasn't the originating event. It might have amplified his existing read that they agreed with me and +1'ed some of the things I was saying about MD, because of conflation of antagonism, but it can't have been the incipiative factor.

[the worst]

Yeah, my memory had some stuff backwards. Dave seems fine for now but needs to talk w Ruru imo

Damnnnn dude your vocabulary is awesome

[the worst]

I don't know how much I like S_S off the S_S/NSG interactions earlier.

[Zoronos]

Actually I like this a lot. Feels more like town pushing theories than scum pushing BS.

I mean, it's logically disconnected. Because his initial SR was based on MD having exactly one town meta but ???? number of scum metas.
Which is... exactly what I said prior about his voting. Like, in what world is someone going to go "Yeah, nobody will suspect this! </mustache twirl>"

Yeah, my memory had some stuff backwards. Dave seems fine for now but needs to talk w Ruru imo

Damnnnn dude your vocabulary is awesome

I'm very tired and this is what happens. I should go to sleep.

[the worst]

I mean, it's logically disconnected. Because his initial SR was based on MD having exactly one town meta but ???? number of scum metas.
Which is... exactly what I said prior about his voting. Like, in what world is someone going to go "Yeah, nobody will suspect this! "

okkkk yeah sorry. Your call on Dave is pretty much where I'm at now. finally back to normalish so need a bit of calibrating.

I'm content just like ignoring him until he's talked with Ruru more.

[BlackStar]

@hewhoswims You had a FoS on Ruru before. Has your read changed?

[HeWhoSwims]

@hewhoswims You had a FoS on Ruru before. Has your read changed?

Although it fits her avatar the latest part of her iso feels a bit too fluffy for me atm.

And every time she naked votes a little part of me dies but that's probably more of a playstyle thingy since scum doesn't gain anything from naked voting, honestly (right?)

Ruru - do you want to talk about the worst? What do you think of the Zoro-Duck connection by HitAlt?

[ruru]

Writing out an extremely well-reasoned but false post accompanying a vote is exactly what mafia does

Anyway tw could be scum but I think ofrhz/jjh are more likely due to their obvtown meta

I find SS's mindset less relatable than tw's which makes him less likely to be town imo, also SS is less of a loss than tw if they're both town

I don't think tw is a great d1 lynch in general and I feel like some people are scumreading him for NAI reasons. I wrote a post before with my actual feelings on him and it's like nullscum at most

I can see scum.tw making zoro less town, I still kinda think zoro is town though

davesaz is probably too town at this point to policy lynch, even though he's policy lynchable

[jjh927]

Come at me

What the hell do you know about my meta

[ruru]

I don't think the dinosaur would lie about this

Would NSG be aware that jjh has a reputation for being super obvtown as town?

and you're not obvtown to me

[davesaz]

My problem with Daveasz was his push on ruru. The questions felt largely answerable from reading the thread, imo. Maybe I'm being insufficiently generous here, but I feel pretty okay in my town ruru read, and my assessment of their vote on ofhrz was 'Not malicious, maybe misguided', and especially in the context of the other things ruru has written it just felt like an odd choice to specifically call out that vote, from amongst all the naked-vote options to chose.

Show me a single post where ruru gives a

reason

to scumread ofhrz.
That's the question that ruru absolutely refuses to answer.
Not answering it is unacceptable. Without the info I can't properly read

either

of the slots.

[ruru]

You still have not answered my question

VOTE: ruru

I was mostly voting ofrhz for not being obvtown / lack of scumhunting, also siterules

Btw, I would never chainsaw Md like that in 2 minutes without asking the PT first if we were scum together so you can stop thinking about it

I'm designated bus on like 9/10 scumteams (ask pin) and almost certainly would be if I were scum with the dinosaur

[ruru]

I want to become Not_Mafia

[davesaz]

This:

What's your stance on ofrhz?

Is the reason for this:

You still have not answered my question

VOTE: ruru

The post is even quoted in the vote post.
I fail to see how anyone could read that and not know what it's about.

[davesaz]

OK maybe I missed a post.

Followup: how is my thinking Mathdino is failing to obvtown (by the MD standard of town) any different than you thinking ofhrz is failing to obvtown?

[ruru]

Because Md is known to be able to mimic certain aspects of his towngame, specifically the ones you were talking about (activity/forcefulness)

[HeWhoSwims]

Now that dave mentions it

A joint ruru+ofrhz iso shows them barely interacting; a few NAI things at the beginning, ruru voting ofrhz for which barely any reasons get given (the quoted post is the only one it seems, which is not that strong) and ofrhz townreading ruru.

I get the impression these guys have played a few games together, right? Now I'm no meta expert by any means but wouldn't you expect them to be able to like, read each other better, in more detail than is happening now?

While odds of both being scum are obviously low, both of their latest posts haven't been stellar... I think. Discuss?

pedit: Said it before but I think I read Math saying his scumgame is similar to towngame, but he tries to leave the town-motivated parts out as good as he can. If anyone recognizes that... it might warrant a lynch.

[davesaz]

Because Md is known to be able to mimic certain aspects of his towngame, specifically the ones you were talking about (activity/forcefulness)

That's nice, but I'm asking about how you're reading me.
I play town my way, by looking for things that are different.
I also actually explain what I'm seeing, because if I'm right I might be the only one seeing it and possibly town's only hope.

[ofrhz]

tbh I think I'm being dumb with ofrhz. tonally she seems similar to our last game, but there's something awkward there.

also wagon motivation checks out

This feels like distancing and bussing at the same time

@pin- when and how did you start scumreading me?

[ofrhz]

ofrhz why are you voteparked on Blackstar?
Pintu why are you voteparked on Math?

I didn’t have any better scumreads

As it is, I’m rapidly losing confidence in my scumread of BlackStar

[ruru]

Now that dave mentions it

A joint ruru+ofrhz iso shows them barely interacting; a few NAI things at the beginning, ruru voting ofrhz for which barely any reasons get given (the quoted post is the only one it seems, which is not that strong) and ofrhz townreading ruru.

When "lack of scumhunting" is one of my main reasons for scumreading ofrhz, it's a lot less productive to say it early

[ruru]

That's nice, but I'm asking about how you're reading me.

I'm reading you as likely town because moving your vote from Md to me after I talked about policy lynching you would be suicidal for scum

I also actually explain what I'm seeing, because if I'm right I might be the only one seeing it and possibly town's only hope.

If my d1 reads are town's only hope we lost