Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[zMuffinMan]

it must be hard to play scum well when people have such low expectations of your town game

just how do you do it?

[OnTheMark]

Now now, a gentleman doesn’t play and tell.

If you want advice on how to be better Mafia then feel free to look at my scum games. I have work to do.

[zMuffinMan]

i'm just going to put this out there, as the only thing i will say about this that's actually serious (because it's an interesting theory point totally unrelated to you in particular but it does have to do with something you've said)

i think the only people who can truly call themselves good at scum are ones about which people say "if they're alive after N2/N3, lynch them"

if your town game isn't good, then getting away with things as scum is much, much easier

[OnTheMark]

That just means they are good town.

Doesn’t mean shit about their scum game dude.

[zMuffinMan]

if you don't understand what that statement means, then i'm not surprised

i've had my fun. i'm done talking to you now

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Nahdia

[zMuffinMan]

VOTE: Nahdia

why nahdia?

[Pine]

Because she is scum. Like you.

[zMuffinMan]

oh. why didn't cheetory tell me that then?

fucking bastard mods

[Pine]

Hostile sarcasm = overdone

[zMuffinMan]

if you think that's overdone, just imagine how cheetory feels about the all caps PM i just sent him

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Nahdia

[Mathdino]

those of you who think muffinman is cheekyscumming it up right here
seem to have completely forgotten his powerplay in partition mafia
he's capable of responding to being the #1 suspect in other ways

like sure, maybe i'm confbiasing by townreading that shit
but treating him like caught scum because he's joking around replacing in is definitely confbiasyisher than me

follow god emperor not_mafia

[Pine]

I can put my thirst for blood on hold.

VOTE: Nahdia

[zMuffinMan]

i didn't plan on playing like this; no one seems to want to engage me or talk about anything game-related with me though, so here we are...

still waiting on literally anyone to give even a summary of claims/actions (also flavour claims if that has happened)

why is nahdia scum?

[Mathdino]

i fully expect mastina and nicorobin to be compiling that list somewhere in their mason PT

as it is, i'm not sure, and i also asked for that upon replace-in and didn't get it

tl;dr nahdia replaced beeboy who fakeclaimed masons with lovebird because he has an ellibereth-strength townread on lovebird
the only townish thing about nahdia is that she immediately retracted that claim upon replace-in

[zMuffinMan]

that doesn't seem like a reason to think that slot is scum. my last game with beeboy, he also fakeclaimed masons

he could be scum doing it, i suppose, but that seems like a pretty meh reason

do you think this series of posts was scum theatre?

i think this post looks more like something a scum player would say to a town player when trying to get suspicion off them

and i think this post might be a bit too blatant/awkward for a scum-scum interaction

[Mathdino]

to think that i was repeatedly told this game that beeboy wouldn't do something that risky as town

look here's the state of the game

Nahdia: is beeboy, did that shit. mastina doesn't want to lynch her, and neither do you
Lovebird: beeboy claims to have an Ellibereth-strength metaread on Lovebird. I believe him. Others don't.
MOMOMEN: flipless, shouldn't be lynched
mastina/NicoRobin: claimed masons with each other. mason cop died.
Not_Mafia: i have a strong townread on RedFlavor, his predecessor. on the other hand, he's Not_Mafia and is never really a horrible lynch

Pine/Mathdino: claim even/odd night versions of the same role. said role involves inventions. i don't think the specifics have been claimed. pine acts tonight, is probably a bad lynch.

leaving OTM and LLD

so those are probably the high priority slots

[zMuffinMan]

to be fair, beeboy did retract the mason claims after a while in that game (though i think that was partially because it was a micro and everyone was focused on the mason claims early on so little else was being discussed and also the risk of being counter-claimed in a micro is fairly low). but i don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that he'd do it if he had a strong townread on someone (though he might also do it as scum? i dunno) - would have to look at the context behind it and i can't be bothered digging at the moment (unless some kind soul in here can point me directly to it?)

what i read of kokichi's interactions with LLD were fairly neutral - nothing that looked particularly town, nothing that looked particularly bad either

wisdom (OTM) otoh had a fair few interactions with kokichi that didn't look like scum-scum to me. actually probably better for me to just link back to this rather than mention them all individually (some of them are iffy~ish, thus the question marks)

(i think redflavor looked the worst from kokichi interactions basically because there was suspicion placed onto that slot but nothing ever eventuated from it in terms of an actual push. also the thing kokichi said about the scum PT in response to something redflavor said looked awkward. but nothing strong. but even these interactions aren't solid; they just look worse than other players)

[Mathdino]

Good call. I forgot that I'd promised to do a reread on RedFlavor after a scumflip.

He's >80% readable on D1 without flips, but he's damn near 100% with flips.

Checking now.

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town

[Mathdino]

There isn't really anything damning association-wise from Red's side. I'm hesitant to read Kokichi's side for associatives given his reputation.

[OnTheMark]

VOTE: Nahdia

Booooo

One of MathDino/Pine is scum with zMuffinMan.

Boooo

The wagon on Nahdia is scum claiming.

Nahdia’s like obvTown

[OnTheMark]

to think that i was repeatedly told this game that beeboy wouldn't do something that risky as town

look here's the state of the game

Nahdia: is beeboy, did that shit. mastina doesn't want to lynch her, and neither do you
Lovebird: beeboy claims to have an Ellibereth-strength metaread on Lovebird. I believe him. Others don't.
MOMOMEN: flipless, shouldn't be lynched
mastina/NicoRobin: claimed masons with each other. mason cop died.
Not_Mafia: i have a strong townread on RedFlavor, his predecessor. on the other hand, he's Not_Mafia and is never really a horrible lynch

Pine/Mathdino: claim even/odd night versions of the same role. said role involves inventions. i don't think the specifics have been claimed. pine acts tonight, is probably a bad lynch.

leaving OTM and LLD

so those are probably the high priority slots

Says he doesn’t want to lynch Nahdia while voting Nadhia.

[Mathdino]

where in that post did i ever say that i did not want to lynch nahdia