Mini Normal 2012: Tropical Mafia [Endgame]

[northsidegal]

VC 2.03

votes

Shosin

(3): Mumble, Invisibility, Gustavo

Mumble

(1): Shoshin

Invisibility

(1): BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting

(6): Havo, Jodaxq, texcat, JarJarDrinks, bacy, havingfitz

With 11 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

The day 2 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-06-09 19:20:59)

Mod Notes

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If I have your vote in the wrong place, please let me know.

[Jodaxq]

I'll be able to catch up tomorrow.

[bacy]

But Mumble feels attacked? And then votes Garuga? I'm having trouble picturing a townie interpret 311 as an attack.

Then read 314 to see I thought the post was directed at me, not Invis, and then stop trying to shade me for made up reasons.

tbh the ''newbscum trying to discredit me'' part, when i first read it, i thought it was directed to mumble aswell. so i think it was totally valid for mumble to interpret it like that

It's nice to say Mumble's interpretation was "reasonable" in hindsight, but I'm curious if anyone actually interpreted 311 the same way as Mumble.

so yep

[bacy]

i'll have to really really reread this at some point in time
but that's what i got for now

i like havo
i like mumble's recent posts. the tone feels towny
i don't like shoshin's push on mumble, i felt like she was more concerned with losing the argument than anything else really

i really dislike invisibility's posts, i feel like the questions he has asked so far were just for the sake of asking something..
VOTE: invisibility

[Invisibility]

why is asking questions scummy?

[bacy]

it's not if the questions are productive and lead to somehwere. i dont see the sumhunting intent behind your questions

[bacy]

it's not if the questions are productive and lead to somehwere. i dont see the sumhunting intent behind your questions

[Invisibility]

im trying OK?

[Shoshin]

Invisibility, do you have any townreads?

[Invisibility]

Joda, bacy, gustavo

[Shoshin]

Joda, bacy, gustavo

Can you explain them?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Scum reads would be more interesting.

[Invisibility]

[quote="In post 635, Shoshin"][/quote]
because they've all been posting content that seems to be trying to further the town's progress

[Invisibility]

cool quote mate

[Invisibility]

thanks

[Shoshin]

because they've all been posting content that seems to be trying to further the town's progress

This is too general an explanation, I'd like specifics.

[Shoshin]

BBT, what're your thoughts on Gustavo? He's irritating me so I'm too biased at this point to read him, need another perspective.

[Gustavo]

exactly how am I irritating you?

[Shoshin]

From the moment we started talking about Mumble, you've been insulting me and making little attempt to understand what I'm saying - most of your responses talk around the points I'm making while calling me "dumb" or "delusional."

[Gustavo]

ok sorry I didn't realize you were so sensitive. I am used to playing with people who call each other way worse. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings.

You do realize you are pretty much all alone with your viewpoint right?

I don't see anybody taking your side or agreeing with you that mumble "scum slipped" because he misread something.

What

does

should that tell you?

This should tell you that you are wrong and should move on.

Your refusal to do that implies that if you are either stubborn town (hopefully you aren't offended by stubborn or else I am all out of words to describe how you are acting if you are town) or you are scum trying to pretend you are stubborn town.

[Mumble]

Not Voting (6): Havo, Jodaxq, texcat, JarJarDrinks, bacy, havingfitz

Hi.

Can this group do something (preferably vote Shoshin)?

Particularly interested in texcat playing or replacing out since she's pretty much prod dodged this entire game.

[Shoshin]

ok sorry I didn't realize you were so sensitive. I am used to playing with people who call each other way worse. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings.

You do realize you are pretty much all alone with your viewpoint right?

I don't see anybody taking your side or agreeing with you that mumble "scum slipped" because he misread something.

What

does

should that tell you?

This should tell you that you are wrong and should move on.

Your refusal to do that implies that if you are either stubborn town (hopefully you aren't offended by stubborn or else I am all out of words to describe how you are acting if you are town) or you are scum trying to pretend you are stubborn town.

I'm not "all alone" - a number of players haven't even weighed in on this yet, and others have expressed some form of agreement/understanding about what I'm saying (e.g. HF, Tex, BBT, etc.).

I'm stubborn because in the past I've been right when pushing a lynch that everyone else disagrees about. I've also been right in similar scenarios as this, where all the people who disagree with me are voting me. And I can point to numerous examples of that happening to lots of players in the history of mafia. So, no, I'm not going to "move on" just because others disagree, especially when most of the people who disagree are voting town (me). I'm instead going to keep trying to refine my reads, while also trying to reach some sort of understanding with the people who aren't in agreement - as far as I'm concerned, the problem isn't with what I'm saying, it's with the way I'm expressing it to you guys and I just need to find a different way to approach the issue.

[Invisibility]

maybe we should move on because conversation is going nowhere

[JarJarDrinks]

Not Voting (6): Havo, Jodaxq, texcat, JarJarDrinks, bacy, havingfitz

Hi.

Can this group do something (preferably vote Shoshin)?

Particularly interested in texcat playing or replacing out since she's pretty much prod dodged this entire game.

is "do something" better than "do stuff" ??

[Mumble]

I meant with your vote, but yeah...fair enough. Ya got me.