Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[jjh927]

Preflips are bad, Math voting me is questionable, I don't know what IIoA means and the worst is still a really good lynch rn

[the worst]

incorrect and we need to focus elsewhere

also

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[jjh927]

You're still on ofhrz, which is still bad and one of the main reasons I scumread you

Who else do you think is scum

[the worst]

Have you read my posts? srs quessun

[BlackStar]

What was the case of jjh again?

[BlackStar]

*on

[jjh927]

Have you read my posts? srs quessun

Yeah, but there's a lot of shit and I don't remember you saying who you scumread recently and an iso glance suggests that I'm right.

Who do you scumread that's not ofhrz

[the worst]

OK if you've read my recent posts I'm not sure why you'd bother asking me that question. If anyone probably you rn tbh

[jjh927]

Turn up your brightness and zoom in! The ducky is there.

pedit: I feel u bro, I'm not getting a scumread on anyone this game. Worst thing so far was Pintu's too-late push on me which was highly gross but the rest of his ISO is fine and I'm comfortable with putting it down to him misreading some shit since he is wonderful.

But like most of this game has been LARGE WALLS OF TEXT WITH SENSIBLE ARGUMENTS which frankly I cbf reading intent into

That's the most recent relevant one

[jjh927]

and it's shit and you can do better and you can also do better than your last one

[the worst]

You can do better than voting town

[jjh927]

I don't think town avoids finding scum like you've been doing

[the worst]

I'm voting my strongest scumread ATM and have been putting about as much energy into this game as I can muster d1. I feel like I've been pretty open about how turned off this game I am and frankly who the fuck are you to BoP or criticise my playstyle?

VOTE: jjh927 flips red

[jjh927]

Is that an ATE OMGUS combo

[jjh927]

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the open queue's first annual duck off

[the worst]

Is that an ATE OMGUS combo

#scumposting

[Something_Smart]

I don't think town avoids finding scum like you've been doing

I lol'd

[davesaz]

That math read was mightly hedged, and still rested on a bad meta core.

I voted MD. I stated that votes have multiple purposes. What made you think it was a solid read?
MD is one of the players that I'm sure about alignment only after a flip, and I read the flip twice to be sure. I don't think I'm trying to hide that at all.

I feel bad yelling 'answers now!' so I guess I won't, but I'd really like the answer to my first question which you obviously did not give. Take your time, but come back and answer.

Thanks. I said in my reply that I hadn't had time to look beyond there being an answer, and I appreciate it when people respect that kind of RL statement.
Ruru has done other things beyond that point (namely actually giving reasons for things ) that say weak town to me.
I had a strong newb read on ofrhz, and still have a newb read there. It's not an iso that yells SCUM KILL IT which is why I wanted to know what was up with the wagon.

[davesaz]

Within a category, roughly equal. Gaps between categories are pretty small. Caveat that my d1 reads are average at best, perhaps not even that.

davesaz

Zoronos - Actively looking to determine everyone's alignment

ruru - I had some reservations about ofrhz push being on LHF, now resolved with explanation. Looks like sorting behavior.
HitAlt - Gut read not backed by either meta nor real evidence
BlackStar - This is kinda vague, mostly gut but interactions with other players seemed to not be hiding anything. TBH don't remember if it's more inquisitive or just responsive.

Something_Smart These three players
northsidegal are people I

know

I could be fooled by
Mathdino so they get places of honor in the middle

jjh927 - Are these reads manipulative or on point? Hard enough to tell and goes in weak scum pile because manipulative is a possibility
ofrhz - Would be null if slightly newer player. I finally see the reason some people are calling this scum. Tempered by occasional townish responses.
the worst - I see the reasons there are scumreads here. TBH this could just be town with bad reads and bad reactions.

HeWhoSwims - Meta read from a game we were scum together. I do not have any town meta to compare to, nor time to meta dive.
pinturicchio - I will feel bad if RL is the real cause of the issues here. But it felt scum before that point.

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

[ofrhz]

My other scumread is pintu

I'm curious about this

I’m actually not sure about this anymore because he just admitted things outside the game are affecting his motivation to play

[ofrhz]

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the open queue's first annual duck off

/in

[ofrhz]

I like this

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

His vote on my wagon was bad

He admitted his reasons for scumreading me were weak, yet tried to throw shade on ruru for having those same reasons

[HeWhoSwims]

@Almost50 You have two different ofrhz wagons

(L3 if it's otherwise correct?)

I paid extra for the separate VIP wagon

been sick. caught up.

sounds like jjh heavily warrants a metaread if he's going to be a lynch contender

TW has slightly more town equity as of these past few pages
i'm so wary about fully disclosing a read on TW before i'm confident in it
so let's just not lynch him today

Well, you said he would be obvtown normally, no? I don't really consider him obvtown this time. Agree there might be better lynches than ducky. At the very least ducky is talking and being active I feel.

Math: Here, I wrote this earlier tonight but decided to hold off on posting it. It's a couple hours out of date, I haven't updated it for the last page or so of posts.

Input?

Spoiler: last vc colorized

state of my thoughts with some mild coloring applied. (I realize the green makes it hard to read the names, that's kind of intentional. I wanted them filtered out)

ofrhz

(4):

northsidegal

,

BlackStar

, the worst,

HeWhoSwims

,
the worst (3):

HitAlt

, jjh927,

ofrhz

,
jjh927 (1): Mathdino,
Mathdino (1):

pinturicchio

,

ruru

(1): davesaz,
Something_Smart (1):

ruru

,

Not Voting: Something_Smart,

Zoronos

,

If I'm putting something_smart aside, that means it's 3/4 scum in MathDino, JJH, the_worst, and davesaz.
If the worst is town, that means jjh is probably scum on the wagon, and daze is scum off the wagon, and I'm wrong about something_smart (I don't think there's a solid scum-dino -> town-Duck associative right now)
If the worst is scum, that probably still puts davesaz as scum off the wagon, and makes me think my HWS town-lean is wrong because he +1'ed HitAlt's stupid Zoronos+TW associative, possibly intending to use it if his partner got flipped while voting the counterwagon.

So, the big question atm is whether it's correct or not to put something_smart aside, and to fix the ??'s in my sort on JJH and davesaz.

Why is the Zoronos-TW association stupid? I hope not only because its you

Why do you excuse ofrhz here as in why couldn't be the scum on town!worst wagon? I find those 2 to be equally suspicious at this point.

[HeWhoSwims]

His vote on my wagon was bad

He admitted his reasons for scumreading me were weak, yet tried to throw shade on ruru for having those same reasons

Why's mine worse than any other?

I wasn't throwing reads at ruru. I was questioning because I genuinely thought ruru could have more of a read on you as it seems you have experience.

[HeWhoSwims]

throwing shade, I meant to say. And if it's throwing shade it was also throwing shade at you, I had hoped the same from you, and didn't get it