Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[BlackStar]

You're a townlean now. My reasons for tunneling you were kind of dumb and you've been making better posts as the game has gone along

[the worst]

what's on your mind?

-shrug-

wondering how confident i can really be in my reads

what i have right now

feels

right, i guess just now i'm waiting for either confirmation or the harsh sting of rejection

for the most part I'm on the same page w your reads unless we have like hella deepwolfing going on.... and something about the game feels satisfying / doesn't feel like hella deepwolfing

[Zoronos]

Sorry, I've been sick all day and when I can muster the brainpower been staring at ISO's inconclusively.

the_worst: I'd like two things from you please.
1) What's your read on NSG? Guessing town based on you repeatedly +1'ing her trains, but just to ease my mind I want to clarify.
2) Where do you stand on HWS? It's the obvious other counterwagon to you here, so I'm curious what your stance is on him.

[Zoronos]

HWS never really answered the question I posed to him about ofhrz, I don't think. He just unvoted as the wagon disintegrated.
I think I owed someone else a response to something but I've forgotten what it was.

[Something_Smart]

He seems to be holding back, not committing to any scumreads nor rocking the boat until there is something that suits his purposes.

This pretty much describes me too, what's the difference?

[the worst]

1) transparently town

2) I'm flip flopping like a pro on HWS. his name reminds me of Hot Water Service which is very distractinggggggg

I liked his earlier posts a lot but in hindsight I think that was primarily a tonal read, it doesn't feel like he's offered a lot of genuine imitative and insight. So probs a nullish town feeling.

But also too many townreads and I haven't really considered where this puts him from a PoE POV

Also jjh is a scumfuck and I haven't really thought abt if they're partners

[Zoronos]

I haven't looked for associatives between them; it wasn't really a partners question.
More a 'Where you at' question because frankly right now you're voting your own counterwagon and if it turns into the_worst vs HWS I want you to be on a read before you have to decide if you're voting HWS or not. So it was a kinda mean tricksey question but thanks for playing along I appreciate it.

I'm not sure I buy NSG transparently town yet. I've been looking for 'courage of your convictions' from her, and I haven't seen it yet. She's still a green name on my notepad, but I'm a little wary. It's entirely possible she's just disengaged from the game. We've got a bunch of lower-energy / reactive (vs dynamic + proactive) players on the list right now, so I'm not sure I blame her.

[ruru]

for the most part I'm on the same page w your reads unless we have like hella deepwolfing going on.... and something about the game feels satisfying / doesn't feel like hella deepwolfing

How does this relate to the game being "gross"

[Zoronos]

Back to reading ISO's and deciding what I think of JJH, Davesaz, HWS, and you.

I'd feel a lot more clarity if one of my ???? reads wasn't on each wagon. I'm having a hard time fathoming the righteousness of each wagon, and I'm working to fix that.

[Zoronos]

You -> the worst in that post.
I should have quoted and ruru interstitially posted.

[the worst]

for the most part I'm on the same page w your reads unless we have like hella deepwolfing going on.... and something about the game feels satisfying / doesn't feel like hella deepwolfing

How does this relate to the game being "gross"

the game state is gross in that I hate trying to process text walls and don't feel like I'm being very engaging and fun to play with

the more exciting part is that we've actually got some spicy wagons. jjh basically scumclaimed in his interactions with me. wrt lack of deepwolfing that's just gut, I don't feel like town is being steered off a cliff if you know what I mean?

[ruru]

I mean you're only behind jjh by one vote (and it's a vote I'm not super confident in)

The dinosaur exerts considerable influence and recently started pushing you

nsg is pushing jjh but isn't townreading you

So like, that post to nsg felt a bit unnatural compared to how you acted toward HA's case (which I felt was towny and possibly accurate)

What makes you think town isn't being steered off a cliff in this gamestate I guess

[ruru]

Speaking of which how do you read the dinosaur right now?

[Mathdino]

His vote on me is awful but I don't think he's reading particularly closely either so I'm really not sure
I'm not townreading him as much as he seems to think in saying that I'm buddying him this game
He wishes I would buddy him
That said, he's a bad lynch d1 and I think he's better saved for lategame

You're welcome duckling I did it for you

[the worst]

Least genuine push so far has been jjh maybe followed by HitAlt? but also I don't feel like HitAlt's push was malicious, it had a lot of convinction it was just really bad.

are there cases being pushed hard which you find particularly disingenuous? we can talk about those if you want?


pedit: uuuhhhhhh I haven't put much effort in but town lean, Hbu?

pedit2: d'aww

[Mathdino]

I'm disappointed you're actually townreading me as uncharacteristically hard as I thought you were

[the worst]

So like, that post to nsg felt a bit unnatural compared to how you acted toward HA's case (which I felt was towny and possibly accurate)

this part I don't really understand what you're seeing :/ shoot quotes at me

[the worst]

I'm disappointed you're actually townreading me as uncharacteristically hard as I thought you were

this sentence has so many feels in it

[Mathdino]

Okay so why are you townleaning me

I know why I'm town this game but I don't think it's within your Mathdino reading range to actually see it
So I'm very confused

[the worst]

tell u l8r

[the worst]

that question makes me think a reason I'm townreading you might be incorrect which you might be able to signal for me discreetly

[Mathdino]

I legit have no idea why you're townreading me

If it's wrong then I'll literally just say "no that's within my scumrange lol"

Are you seriously pr hunting me

[ruru]

Least genuine push so far has been jjh maybe followed by HitAlt? but also I don't feel like HitAlt's push was malicious, it had a lot of convinction it was just really bad.

So is HA town or?

This game is getting gross. I feel like some people here are easy to work with but {jjh, Hit} are just tunnelling me to the point of being completely awful at mafia. There's 1-2 scum here, and I can actually see them as scum together.

Because this reaction was weird to me, it feels like over the top omgus (unlike this post in 721 for example which felt a bit more natural? Even if it kinda spewed your role)

Although now that I write this out maybe that is the town.duckling response to someone who claims to be so familiar with your meta and scumreads you?

Hmm

are there cases being pushed hard which you find particularly disingenuous? we can talk about those if you want?

Not really, it's day 1

Unless scum really screw up, we all make up reasons to suspect each other and then lynch the least charismatic player

I feel like scum haven't really screwed up yet in a way that's noticeable to me, so I'm just sorta bored/frustrated with it being d1

I don't exactly relate to a "game solved" mentality I guess

pedit: uuuhhhhhh I haven't put much effort in but town lean, Hbu?

Nulltown

[ruru]

Oh wow

Are you seriously pr hunting me

Am I allowed to lynch him for this or do we still think scum don't rolefish

[Zoronos]

His vote on me is awful but I don't think he's reading particularly closely either so I'm really not sure
I'm not townreading him as much as he seems to think in saying that I'm buddying him this game
He wishes I would buddy him
That said, he's a bad lynch d1 and I think he's better saved for lategame

You're welcome duckling I did it for you

Maybe my brain isn't working at the moment, but I'm confused about pronouns in a couple of these.
Line one: His = JJH, me = the_worst
Line two: I'm = the_worst, he = Mathdino?
Line three & four: He / him = Mathdino?