Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[OnTheMark]

Lovebird Pine Zmuffon Mathdino is my pool no particular order

Consider this the weakest of prod dodges since there is time

[zMuffinMan]

people aren't gonna stop shouting that N_M is scum

i don't think anyone has been shouting that he's scum

i think his posts after the wagon on him started developing are a good indication that he's scum, though

i'm also not sure he'd self-hammer after i specifically pointed out that he might

realistically, i want to see his flip so i can move on. if he's scum, yay. if he's not, it means i'll probably actually have to read parts of the game and figure things out, which i won't be looking forward to

[Mathdino]

LLD has shouted that he's scum basically all day

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You know, people don't get to describe my play as "shouting" and also as "not pushing aggressively"

That's bullshit.

[zMuffinMan]

can anyone point to not_mafia playing like this as town about to be lynched?

can anyone point to any games where not_mafia has been in a similar situation as scum?

[Not_Mafia]

i'm also not sure he'd self-hammer after i specifically pointed out that he might

How convenient

[Not_Mafia]

You know, people don't get to describe my play as "shouting" and also as "not pushing aggressively"

That's bullshit.

Shouting in to the void isn't an aggressive push

[zMuffinMan]

do you normally self-hammer as scum? point me to times you have, if so

[Not_Mafia]

No

[Pine]

Self-hammering is dumb under almost any circumstance. The only situation (which doesn't involve unusual mechanics) where I'd self-hammer is if I were caught with an ironclad guilty and thought I could deny Town substantive information by ending day. A quicklynch when known PRs haven't checked in, for example.

I would honestly think less of NM as a player I respect if he self-hammered here. He has a small but non-zero chance to weasel out of this, given the feckless myopia of sections of this Town.

[Pine]

Also, "Feckless Myopia" is the name of my new Walk the Moon cover band.

[zMuffinMan]

right. which is why i thought he might self-hammer before LLD did her thing but afterwards not so much (and especially so because he might think not doing it makes him seem more town after i suggested he might try to do it)

so i don't really care much that he didn't do it

i think his general play after he started getting wagoned is more likely to come from scum and, well, even if he isn't scum, i don't really have any qualms with lynching play like that

[Pine]

He didn't have a chance before LLD did her thing.

[zMuffinMan]

yes, i know... that was my point...

anyway, i just want to lynch not_mafia, see the flip and move on one way or another

[zMuffinMan]

actually, hold on, sorry

Unvote

is the lover thing permanent? (if pine or not_mafia knows, they can answer; if not, i want to hear this from lovebird)

if it's not permanent it might be worthwhile lynching elsewhere today and settling not_mafia some other day

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've never heard of Part Time Lovers (eyyy the jokes) but it's worth asking, since it's public.

[zMuffinMan]

ive seen temporary cupids before (e.g. lasts only a single day/night cycle) and other roles of a similar nature that are temporary

can't be bothered digging to find the games though

just want confirmation because, well, does anyone really think pine is scum here?

and also if it's permanent and it's not 1-shot, i don't want lovebird using it anymore

[zMuffinMan]

what is not_mafia's role, btw? since he's leaving it up to you to claim for him apparently

[Lady Lambdadelta]

what is not_mafia's role, btw? since he's leaving it up to you to claim for him apparently

I think I've claimed it before, but it's "If he votes for a lynch and it's a scum lynch, he gets a doctor shot he called it a "healer". If he lynches town, he will gain the ability to prevent a single person's actions from resolving on him alone, but only if they were also on the wagon.

[Nahdia]

actually, hold on, sorry

Unvote

is the lover thing permanent? (if pine or not_mafia knows, they can answer; if not, i want to hear this from lovebird)

if it's not permanent it might be worthwhile lynching elsewhere today and settling not_mafia some other day

or, or, or, or, we could still lynch them today and feed two birds with one scone.

[zMuffinMan]

yeah, but i doubt pine's scum, so there's that

also pretty sure a scone could feed far more than two birds

[zMuffinMan]

oh. just realised that you're probably the most likely candidate to get lynched if they don't, so i guess you'd prefer that over your own lynch

well, i'm not sure who i'd actually want to lynch today if not not_mafia, but i think i'd prefer not lynching the half of that lover pair that is pretty obviously not scum (if possible)

even though we're at evens and lynching to get back to odds isn't such a bad idea, really

going for a walk, i'll think about it while i do

[Nahdia]

well i for one wouldnt be so sure. i mean, i guess it seems unlikely now that he's basically marched to his own death, but i haven't liked him up to this point and im always gonna be unsure if he's somehow alive going forward.

it's a small scone. also it's an expression.

oh. just realised that you're probably the most likely candidate to get lynched if they don't, so i guess you'd prefer that over your own lynch

well, i'm not sure who i'd actually want to lynch today if not not_mafia, but i think i'd prefer not lynching the half of that lover pair that is pretty obviously not scum (if possible)

even though we're at evens and lynching to get back to odds isn't such a bad idea, really

going for a walk, i'll think about it while i do

well, yeah, i'd also prefer to not be lynched. i am town despite lots of dispersion to the contrary.

LLD has been improving in my eyes. if not not_mafia, i would say MathDino, or you, or maybe Lovebird.

[zMuffinMan]

how has LLD been improving in your eyes?

[Nahdia]

idk, i just tend to expect scum to hold their cards a bit closer to their chest. her discussing her role usage has given me some input i'd been missing from her earlier.