Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[pinturicchio]

HitAlt's tunnel on the duckling reminds me of a fake tunnel that vulcan logician had on me on our last game, and by fake I mean "scum hard tunneling someone since early D1 until the end". We either lynch the worst or HitAlt before LyLo, 'cause in that game I lived until MyLo and the other scum option was vulcan and it was not nice to be in that situation, @duckling you know what I mean

@Blackstar mind to be more specific on your commentary about me conveniently voting jjh? Easy to say, but with no backup is just free shading at EoD, which could perfectly be an excuse to justify an early push on D2. By the way, I would not be asking this if I agreed with you at least a little, but I couldn't agree less

[BlackStar]

You haven't said much about why you suck read jjh. And you haven't engaged with him much since your vote. So to me it looks a little bit convenient. I've been the same way with hewhoswims though, so I don't necessarily think that makes you scum. I just thought it was worth noting that people are hopping on his wisdom but not really pushing that hard for his lynch.

[BlackStar]

*scum read

[BlackStar]

*wagon

[pinturicchio]

You haven't said much about why you suck read jjh. And you haven't engaged with him much since your vote. So to me it looks a little bit convenient. I've been the same way with hewhoswims though, so I don't necessarily think that makes you scum. I just thought it was worth noting that people are hopping on his wisdom but not really pushing that hard for his lynch.

Yeah I get it, but I've been saying that jjh seams scummy since the begining of the game, since NSG's read on him. I mean maybe NSG was lucky and pushed the right guy, but his reaction in the early game was bad. But yes, I've not pushed him that much 'cause my reads sucks ass in this game because of lack of motivation early in this day and along midday too. I've been struggling to the idea of replacing out to not dissapoint you guys since you deserve better, but I'm giving myself a second chance on D2.

[BlackStar]

I've been thinking about replacing out too for the same reasons lol

[Almost50]

Sharing is Caring D1 VC #20

jjh927 (5): northsidegal, the worst, pinturicchio, ruru, Mathdino,
HeWhoSwims (3): davesaz, ofrhz, BlackStar,
the worst (2): HitAlt, jjh927,
davesaz (1): Zoronos,

Not Voting: Something_Smart, HeWhoSwims,

(expired on 2018-06-06 23:00:00)

Note: This will be my last VC of the day.
Reason: I ran out of digits on both hands and feet.

[HitAlt]

What is the difference in your mind here between a 'fake' vibe and a scum vibe?

Well, since I'm tired of not giving straightforward answers: it's similar to how scum!lurky can be different from PR!lurky.

[HitAlt]

HitAlt's tunnel on the duckling reminds me of a fake tunnel that vulcan logician had on me on our last game, and by fake I mean "scum hard tunneling someone since early D1 until the end". We either lynch the worst or HitAlt before LyLo, 'cause in that game I lived until MyLo and the other scum option was vulcan and it was not nice to be in that situation, @duckling you know what I mean

I skimmed that game.
I'm not sure if the situation can be compared directly, but I agree that one/both of us need to flip before later this game.
You caught the scum in that game though.

[pinturicchio]

HitAlt's tunnel on the duckling reminds me of a fake tunnel that vulcan logician had on me on our last game, and by fake I mean "scum hard tunneling someone since early D1 until the end". We either lynch the worst or HitAlt before LyLo, 'cause in that game I lived until MyLo and the other scum option was vulcan and it was not nice to be in that situation, @duckling you know what I mean

I skimmed that game.
I'm not sure if the situation can be compared directly, but I agree that one/both of us need to flip before later this game.
You caught the scum in that game though.

Yeah but not until Rei was conftown and the duckling trusted me at the end, I still can't believe we got it right.

[HitAlt]

Trust me on duck here then.
You won't be disappointed.

[Zoronos]

VOTE: Davesaz
My position re: hammers hasn't changed, but want to record some suspicions.

VOTE: something_smart

[Something_Smart]

How come?

[Zoronos]

You haven't said much about why you suck read jjh. And you haven't engaged with him much since your vote. So to me it looks a little bit convenient. I've been the same way with hewhoswims though, so I don't necessarily think that makes you scum. I just thought it was worth noting that people are hopping on his wisdom but not really pushing that hard for his lynch.

After my discussion with HWS a few pages ago I think I'm back to putting him in the light town read category. It's still one of the reads I'm most likely upside down on if I am upside down somewhere, but I'm feeling better about it after talking to him.

Given the massive stall we've been seeing I wanted to evaluate if that was a wagon I wanted to push.

[Mathdino]

Hey does anyone remember that game I just modded

That was lost because town didn't fucking vote, even in lylo

Stop not voting holy shit its so tilting to see 3 days on the deadline and people actively not using their vote for shit

[Zoronos]

How come?

Because a bunch of your questions have struck me as pointless, had obvious answers, or were based on distinctions without difference. I've been bucketing you as null most of the day because you haven't had enough AI content that I could evaluate you with any sort of confidence, but given how little you've made waves or pushed new thoughts into the game state, at some point lack of AI content itself becomes AI content.
I want to draw a distinction between 'I am ignoring this person because they are towny' (Ruru, for example) and 'I am ignoring this person because I don't know what to think yet' (you), so, let the VC chronicle my suspicions.

[the worst]

It feels like we're just wasting time until the deadline. Speculation is cool and all, but its easier to make solid connections and cases after we lynch someone. So lets just do that already

i agree with this. it feels like we're waiting on something that just isn't coming.

i'd like to hear some specific thoughts on what the people off of the jjh wagon are doing / think of that wagon.

It feels like some people just voted for him because they saw the momentum and not because they actually felt he was scum

who?

The Worst and pintchurrio

he voteparked me for ages then spewed out some nonsensical garbo about his reasons for it

think I've explained in more detail already

[the worst]

I guess I could properly case the worst if that would help

oh fuck this would make my day

[the worst]

HitAlt's tunnel on the duckling reminds me of a fake tunnel that vulcan logician had on me on our last game, and by fake I mean "scum hard tunneling someone since early D1 until the end". We either lynch the worst or HitAlt before LyLo, 'cause in that game I lived until MyLo and the other scum option was vulcan and it was not nice to be in that situation, @duckling you know what I mean

ugh thank you someone else feels this

Yeah the tunnel is getting bad. He's like refusing to play the game and continuously circling back to me when he clearly has no case.

[Zoronos]

I am contemplating the wisdom of going to narnia.

[the worst]

always go to narnia
ALWAYS.
<3

[Zoronos]

Is that a term here?
I don't know the corresponding jargon you guys use for 'creating a new train and suddenly lynching someone who was not previously among leading lynch candidates'. The forum I used to play on referred to that phenomenon as 'going to narnia'.

[BlackStar]

Hey does anyone remember that game I just modded

That was lost because town didn't fucking vote, even in lylo

Stop not voting holy shit its so tilting to see 3 days on the deadline and people actively not using their vote for shit

We did vote in that game. We lost because hewhoswims wasn't there to break the tie at the end

[BlackStar]

It feels like we're just wasting time until the deadline. Speculation is cool and all, but its easier to make solid connections and cases after we lynch someone. So lets just do that already

i agree with this. it feels like we're waiting on something that just isn't coming.

i'd like to hear some specific thoughts on what the people off of the jjh wagon are doing / think of that wagon.

It feels like some people just voted for him because they saw the momentum and not because they actually felt he was scum

who?

The Worst and pintchurrio

he voteparked me for ages then spewed out some nonsensical garbo about his reasons for it

think I've explained in more detail already

Alright

[Zoronos]

Blackstar - What's your stance on JJH?
I feel like you've said you don't like the wagon composition on JJH, and I'm kinda of agreeing, but I think HWS is just on the towny side of null, so I'd like to figure out how to best reconcile to get some lynching going.

Like, my town bin is: You, ruru, ofhz, MathDino, NSG (lean), HWS (lean) and HitAlt (lean).
What's the best lynch we can assemble out of that green-list?

(Pintu has been demoted to Null)