mini 2013: the chorus of i'll call b4 i cum mafia (all done)

[profii]

Sivs answer will have a high bearing on how I Read his slot so let’s see

Stuff like this reads as fake when you say it ahead of time

I get what you are trying to say, but not really, as the point is implied by asking the question, otherwise, why ask?

this is your only interaction with or comment on him
where's your mind at?

he's not done anything of note, I suppose you could say active lurking but it feels very easy.

[SIV36]

Azurit's vote makes Dunn at L-2.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: SV

I CANT LET THESE BAD POSTS GO UNVOTED

[LuckyOtter]

So let's reward active lurking and make it a viable strategy to get to D2? wth, profii?

Also, just do an iso on Dunn and tell me what you see as town play in there. Here's what I see:
Lurk lurk
"This is me not voting profii"
Lurk lurk
Throws shade at Azurit (114-115, 117), calling her post bad but not offering any other analysis
Lurk lurk
Votes Tchill for

not

lurking enough to be town Tchill (did I read that right?). Says Tchill is pushing an agenda. (What agenda? )
Lurk lurk ignores my questions in 292

Lots of lurking, very little analysis, no questioning. Profii, the better question might be, what has Dunn done to make you unconvinced on voting him?

VOTE: Dunnstral

pedit: back at L-2. Thanks for chiming in there, Siv. Anything else you want to say about it?

[profii]

nothing really I feel like maybe it's so obvious it's too easy.

[profii]

I know that me being really weak but now the wagon has momentum let me see.
Dunn:
ruby / worst / tchil / koki / azurit / Lucky Otter.

now let's just look at some of the prev. wagons at their peaks

profii (5):
Kokichi Oma, the worst, UnaBombaH, Tchill13, SIV36

koki:
maria / profii / performer / SIV / TChill


the dunn wagon is

mostly

TRs, id say luckyotter is one of my stronger town reads maybe

My gut instinct is I don't TR Tchill and he appears on all the wagons, this is making me think 'any lynch will do for scum' sort of vibes. But again, it's quite simple, scum don't give themselves away like that.

[UnaBombaH]

UNVOTE: - in case I've been sitting on a vote!

Will catchup now, and won't sleep until I'm done.
Will cast my vote at the end once I know where votes currently are.

[UnaBombaH]

Tchill does seem, in fact, fairly chill, so UNVOTE: Tchill13

First post in the early game/RvS to ping me.

Note to self.

I'm going to count the votes, but surely Una is wrong, there surely isn't 6 people on me??

I can't believe my fake L-1...no, not even "fake L-1"....."COMPLETELY-RIDICULOUS-JOKE L-1" went through..!

...or profii was jumpy because scum..

VOTE: profil

Goodnight

Wanna bet Kokichi had the same thought?
My first ever earlygame townlean on Kokichi..!

He was panicked and obvious scum. Doctor on me after scum flip

Yassssss.

He was panicked and obvious scum. Doctor on me after scum flip

I do not know why, but this legit made me giggle..

It seems I was on a rather..Chill-mood (pun INTENDED) when I first read that post - now it felt like a reasonable reaction! (bet I laughed at that "doc on me")

Sidenote:

Fun to notice that I had such a different reaction/read to such an early post then.
Now when I reread it, I actually think there's value and intent there.
Goes to show again why I like to replace in and do catchups..!

VOTE: profii

L-2

Uh-huh. All good.

This is me not voting profii

Why though?
Wouldn't it be better for all of us if you joined a wagon?

I think this is the worsts town game

And Kokis

So I am thinking Una or Siv will be the scum

Una made some weird posts for Una

to be fair but I don’t like SIV either

Oh profii...I think your gonna need a few more games with me before that.
But I think I actually like playing with you, so I don't think it's going to be a problem.

The worst I’ve played with once but I feel like I chat in site chat enough to have a decent handle on things

Don't underestimate the BuDucky.
They are scary good.

Post #124 feels "overly analytical".
Especially since I *THINK* Azurit doesn't know Kokichi very well at all. (please do correct me if I'm wrong)

[SIV36]

Siv. Anything else you want to say about it?

Eh..not feeling so great about lynching Dunn. I agree, he hasn't helped town very much, but he also hasn't done anything

that

scummy fmpov. I think he might flip town.

At least, I think he should unload his thoughts on the game before he goes.

[UnaBombaH]

But I'm new to this mafia forum and don't know anyone else than Una.

Silly me.
I was SE or IC in your newbie game just recently - I thought your avatar seemed familiar!

The quoted looks to me like you believed d1 was over. This post proceeded your 'lynched' vote not even a minute after. This post feels rushed.

....another one fell for that one silly "L-1"..
I can say for 100% certainty that Koki was joking.
Or in a very distant possibility testing for your reactions (although I think even he didn't expect actual reactions)

Sorry Koki.

VOTE: profii

L-2 !!

Headlong into the ditch, I love it!

hey dunnstral can you stop looking like scum and start being town

Interesting.
As of this post Dunnstral is still completely null to me.

Well I think Mr Otter can be town, that’s good

Agreed on that though.

As everyone can tell, It's been almost 2 years so I'm a little rusty. In the same vein, using meta on me would be useless because of that. So...don't bother

Might be reaching a bit, but I think this post might have an agenda..

VOTE: SV36
Good with this might join a Dunnstral wagon
Yea Lucky can be town

...and so can Maria for now.

Koki, Maria, Otter town so far.

{profii, performer, ???}

Dunnstral? can it be that easy?

It's never that easy

BuDucky...why did you ask that?

Why are you so hooked on me? I thought I usually could understand peope going through confirmation bias (I get it real bad too), but the way your wrangling with me is mystifying.

This feels like an overreaction.

SIV, profii, Azurit

(or newb!town?)

scumleans so far.

I think Otter made a good point and SIV didn't make a good retort here.

Not sure if profii would buss this early, so maybe keeping those scumleans separate for now.

I think my vote is in the right place here. (Im on SIV)

Actually, to make my point more clear: I think (no deeeeep meta) profii doesn't distance like this. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

That’s seems ok to me for now, at least ok enough to move vote

If I was bothered by the wagon I’d be harassing people a lot more - saying that, I still have no idea why I’m up at l-2 so I think someone is scum on wagon

VOTE: UnaBombah

Wait, where does this come from?
Considering I had declared a V/LA too, I do not like this from profii. (and this actually sort of nullifies my point above, but I'll keep it there as it was an organic read)

[profii]

It was Poe from the wagon on me iirc with that post I called weird in my head at the time

[UnaBombaH]

something weird is going on with me flying up to l-1 - I have no idea how that has even happened, so I'll be voting someone on my wagon I think.

wolfy??

Yes.

I was just thinking that if mafia were to start the game conversing with each other in the public thread, they might make a serious attempt at pointing the fingers at each other very early to dispel coinciding suspicion on both of them. The interaction kicking off with azurit and proffii (so early in RVS) seemed like it was geared by that possible motive.

this is probs town

Absolutely no.

i'm pretty sure unab is actually a wolf

But why though?
I know I haven't given anything yet this game, but I'm here now.
So try to justify that read plox.

wolf poe:
{UnaBombaH, Tchill13, Dunnstral, Performer, SIV36, Kokichi Oma}

VOTE: unabombah

..so it was PoE then?

181 and 182 pinged me

I think BuDucky goes to town at this point.
And Performer starts to slide towards scumlean.

Una appears to be active lurking.

Hope to prove you wrong as well.

SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT MY EYE:

you think so? why?

^^Questioning TWs advertisement for wagoning Performer.

VOTE: performer

What caused this?

Adding yeasayer to my townreads list. Got a strong feeling that he's genuinely interested in game-solving.

Not sure about this.
Feels like a read thrown rather easily..

i do think siv is doing decent work on day 1 though. i like what im seeing from him.

+

This. SIV is impressive.

Like, what?
Either we are reading different games, or you two have some explaining to do!

i am not a fine lynch

So far you are though..

VOTE: Tchill13

This is not town Tchill, the way he's pushing people shows he has an agenda here

Him+TW got me worried with their stances on SIV..

i am not a fine lynch

damn that cute dog.

UNVOTE:

we get to a few more pages and i'll actually attempt to put effort in i guess.

Oh man, I think you have a scumtell..

I feel good saying this is indeed scum!Chill for now. Will try to clarify after I'm caught up, but go check my mutual games with him and see I can def. gutread him.

[profii]

Keep going on Tchill please because idk what your scum tell is but he is really pinging my gut

[Tchill13]

You've gotten a correct read on me one time.

The other one you only got because of an illegal fake claim. Una can't read me lol.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: SV

I CANT LET THESE BAD POSTS GO UNVOTED

What the hell. Sivs posts are great.

[Tchill13]

The fake hammers are getting old. I bet there's more fake hammers than day 1 lynches combined here recently on site. It's ridiculous.

[profii]

VOTE: tchill

If you thought that was a claim town doesn’t announce it

[Tchill13]

And what the hell is that progression on me? I'm scum because I TR Siv or because I unvoted profii? Profii's case is better imo. Both are garbage though.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: tchill

If you thought that was a claim town doesn’t announce it

What claim?

[Tchill13]

You've gotten a correct read on me one time.

The other one you only got because of an illegal fake claim. Una can't read me lol.

The claim I'm referring to happened in a different game with me and UNA. Not the copy claim in the game that says NO COPS...

[profii]

You've gotten a correct read on me one time.

The other one you only got because of an illegal fake claim. Una can't read me lol.

Oic I thought you’d seen a soft

[Tchill13]

No. Softs on day one aren't necessarily good to read into anyways. Scum can always soft early to avoid the NK of a vig or a night action then never bring it up again.

[UnaBombaH]

and can we get your statements on what is supposed to be displayed from town tchill? for the court records of course.

Yeah, you're supposed to lurk and never push anything and then get wagoned for doing nothing and die without properly defending yourself

While this makes me laugh, Chill is actually good at scum.
I just think I've found a tell that pings somewhere inside of me whenever it comes..

THE ENSUING META-DISCUSSION ON PAGE 10 DOESN'T DO TOWN ANY GOOD THOUGH.

....until BuDucky comes in with a slam-dunk:

Dunnstral and Tchill seem to be talking about each other but not to each other so much, interesting

We're already talking about meta too much...

Good point though.

Tbh I feel like scum is more than likely lurking.

Disagree on this though.

----HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK FOR SOME HOURS HERE----

[Tchill13]

"i can read such and such every time but they're really good at scum"

pat yourself on the back more lmao.

[Morality]

as soon as I replaced in, i got busy

I’ll be able to catch up soon. Like today probably.